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"Guard" command?

I saw on another thread where someone has a Guard command they give their dog, apparently to have the dog start barking at a perceived threat.

Is this a common command to teach? If your dog does this, how did you teach it and is it an advisable thing to teach a GSD who is mainly a pet and not doing SchH etc? I ask because I can see how it could be useful if one felt threatened on a walk, to have the dog start barking (as a deterrant). But I would not want my dog to actually bite/lunge at anyone.

What do you think? Is this command a good or bad idea?

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Bad idea. You want a pet-so it should be treated like one. I know some people are going to disagree but I think that pets should be pets and sch. dogs should be sch. dogs-but sch. dogs can still be pets.
The other thing-is that I have never once heard of anyone with a sch dog giving the dog the commands off the field or training sessions elsewhere.
And, before I derail your topic, I'll start my own.
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Gaurd/Watch

My dog and I are trained in 'personal protection'. This sounds very similar to what you are asking about. A brief description of what we do: at the command 'watch', Indigo will bark, snarl, lunge, snap-ALL on leash. At the command to stop 'out', he stops immediately and comes to a heel position. We do not do bite or chase work; tho I have no doubt that Indigo would do both if he was let off leash. I live alone and frequently walk at night, so I am fine if, when I am threatened, Indigo would bite if I let him.
You will need an experienced trainer to help you, as they act like the bad guy, My trainer is also very good at assessing the abilities of the dog. Not all are able to protect, some take to it well and some do it out of fear, which is a whole 'nother issue. I have seen personal protection offered by other trainers in different areas. Speaking for me and Indigo, it is our favourite part of training!
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You can teach your dog to bark on command even if you don't expect it to actually protect you. If you want to use the "guard" command instead of something more benign like "speak", that would probably be enough of a deterrent for most people.

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A dog trained in anything that shows aggression towards a human-including just putting on a show(barking, lunging, snarling) is no longer a pet. This animal is a PP dog and I hope you continue your training.
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A dog trained in anything that shows aggression towards a human-including just putting on a show(barking, lunging, snarling) is no longer a pet. This animal is a PP dog and I hope you continue your training.
I really don't think thats true. It can still be a pet/companion. Meaning for show you are talking about Sch. right?

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You can simply teach your dog to bark on command, but make the command gaurd or something along those lines. The dog doesn't need to know why you are teaching it to bark on command.

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I really don't think thats true. It can still be a pet/companion. Meaning for show you are talking about Sch. right?
If you read my posts properly you would see that I wrote two conflicting things.

'I think that pets should be pets and sch. dogs should be sch. dogs-but sch. dogs can still be pets.' and 'A dog A dog trained in anything that shows aggression towards a human-including just putting on a show(barking, lunging, snarling) is no longer a pet.'

What I meant was 'is no longer JUST a pet.

And I did not call sch. for show. I said 'putting on a show(barking, lunging, snarling)' I said barking, lunging and snarling were for show.

There are many MANY differences in Sch. training and PP work. I am not qualified to give you the difference so you'll have to read up.
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My opinion, for you cassadee, I don't think I would..Only because you have 5 kids, who have friends, you want to live with this dog, and I'm sure you want the dog to be friendly with your kids, and your kids friends..

I am definately all for obedience training on ANY dog. When you throw a bunch of kids into the equation, I wouldn't want a mean, aggressive, (even if its' for show) bone in it's body..(and I know you don't either)..

And sure you can teach a dog to bark, (it may backfire and you may have one that doesn't shut up! LOL),,but I'm not sure I would want to teach that either..

I think these dogs can be a deterrent just by being "them", and actually being 'silent'.
I have had workmen here before, who were unphased by my barking dog, yet were very very wary of my silent 'watching' gsd who wouldn't have hurt a bug\\\

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Kokoda's "speak" command is gib laut, and when I give it she barks like crazy, teeth everywhere, front feet coming off the ground, and we're working on getting deeper barks. I think it would be pretty intimidating - they don't need to know she's doing it to get her ball

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