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Training One Action to Several Commands?

I was just wondering how difficult it is to teach a GSD several different commands for one action? Such as Platz/lay down?

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Re: Training One Action to Several Commands?

It's very easy in my experience. When I got Bianca she only knew German commands but she quickly picked up the English commands I taught her.


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Re: Training One Action to Several Commands?

Not at all. The easiest way to do it is train with a hand signal, pair with one verbal command. Once you're sure the dog KNOWS that verbal command inside and out, then fade in the new verbal command. Mix and match for a while...

I've seen people do this in classes all the time. They're not consistent with commands, so their dogs learn more than one command inadvertently.

But my question is why would you want to do this intentionally?
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Lori, I think he means one action with different criteria, such as a formal "platz" for competition and an informal "down" for other circumstances. At least, that's how I read it.

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Lori, I think he means one action with different criteria, such as a formal "platz" for competition and an informal "down" for other circumstances. At least, that's how I read it.
You nailed it right on the head.

Since I want to get into Schutzhund at some point, I want to teach him the German commands for the trials, and the regular commands for home.

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Lori, I think he means one action with different criteria, such as a formal "platz" for competition and an informal "down" for other circumstances. At least, that's how I read it.
You nailed it right on the head.

Since I want to get into Schutzhund at some point, I want to teach him the German commands for the trials, and the regular commands for home.
If the commands will mean different things (such as a formal down vs. informal, or a recall to front vs 'come over here') then you are not really using two commands for the same action because the actions are not the same.


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Re: Training One Action to Several Commands?

The answer to either way to take the question is yes. I use German with Bison and Moose learned that the commands mean the same as the English commands he knows. He understands that "Platz" means "lay down".

I am working on heeling with Bison in Schutzhund right now and I use "fuss". But just walking down the street or to and from the field I use "by me". "By me" just means to stay near me and don't pull. "Fuss" will be his formal heeeling command that requires precision.

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Originally Posted By: KonotashiI was just wondering how difficult it is to teach a GSD several different commands for one action? Such as Platz/lay down?
Once the dog learns the action you desire it's rather easy to set that action to different words.

My old girl Neke knew English, German and French versions of Sit, Down, Come and Stay.
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Re: Training One Action to Several Commands?

If you plan to do SchH later, I would use regular/English (or whatever) commands right now and wait with the SchH/German commands until you are training SchH with a club and good trainer.
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