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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-21-2010, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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Front to Left Heel position

How do you begin to teach a dog/pup to move from front to the left position like this (first 4 seconds)? How is the luring done?

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Re: Front to Left Heel position

Hold the food or toy right in front of the dog's nose with your left hand. Take one big step back with your left leg at the same time as moving your left hand around and all the way back to get the dog to move; and then take a couple of steps forward while moving your left hand to your side.

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Re: Front to Left Heel position

Are you specifically regarding the "flip" that is done? We have a left and right finish, but they certainly aren't clean and "flippy" like that. I think you would want to start with perch training and proceed from there. I don't really care how Glory goes to the left side, though, it doesn't have to be exactly like that. Just as long as she does it, it's cool with me. Our commands are "left side" and "around back". She ends up on the left, ready for a heel, in either case. I'm sure others will guide you towards perch training to get that kind of perfection....

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Re: Front to Left Heel position

I do what you said right now with Ike to teach him to find the leg. So he goes back, circles around, and then follows my left leg back up to heel position. But in the video it looks like the dog is not actually going behind the handler and then circling back. He is just pivoting his butt counterclockwise from 12 o'clock position to 6 o'clock. His head and the front part of his body barely moved. Does that make sense?
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Re: Front to Left Heel position

Yeah, I'm not sure how to get such a clean pivot like that. The only pivoting we know about is perch training, and Glory is a sad case......

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Re: Front to Left Heel position

Start luring him with the step back, turn around move into position. He will get that Finish is the position more than the move. Once he understands what the Finish is, get him amped up in drive and he will be jumping and flipping around to get into position as fast as possible.

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Re: Front to Left Heel position

Ah, Lucia, thanks! I never thought of it like that but it makes sense that once he understands when he needs to end up he would just start taking the shortest route possible to get there.
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Cool, thanks Castlemaid! I never thought that you could just move with them for awhile until they get it! So, it isn't magic, Jason! Magic was my next guess....

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Re: Front to Left Heel position

My next guess too. Of course all this is down the road. Right now if Ike does not manage to give himself a concussion jumping around while we "train" obedience I consider that a good session!
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Re: Front to Left Heel position

Another option, I have the dog on lead. Dog is in heel not in front.
Leash is held in right hand, food in left.
The leash is taught across my legs. I teach a left pivot/doodle and the dog has to learn to scoot her rear back to remain in position during the pivot/doodle.
With the leash taught, I take a step with my right so that it "T"s in front of my left foot as I keep the dogs head turned out away from me causing her rear to move in behind me and back into position as I complete the pivot.
Throughly confused you yet?

Best way that I want to attempt next though is with the perch Working on the perch with my puppers now ... should get this type of finish using the perch too.

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