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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-13-2009, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
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Teach "snarl?"

A friend of mine in high school had taught his sweet-as-sugar golden retriever to snarl on command. It was awesome! I also saw it mentioned on another board today. I'd like to teach it to Renji but without associating aggressive tendencies, obviously. I'd be happy with just lip-lifting that shows off his teeth.

How does one go about teaching this? I'm pondering how to teach this myself but right now I can't think where to start.

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Re: Teach "snarl?"

I taught it to my always friendly Border Collie by playfully squeezing the nose and the clicker.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQ4o...eature=related

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Re: Teach "snarl?"

Some dogs naturally offer the smile - I've seen it in a lot of Aussies and border collies, and even a few goldens. Never seen it quite so natural in a GSD, though, so it may be more difficult. If a dog has the natural behavior and you can catch it and reward it, that's a lot easier than trying to figure out how to get the behavior to happen.

I was working on something like this with Tazer, though. When I tell her "easy" and start to hand her a treat, she pulls her lips back from her teeth before taking the treat. I was marking that behavior but because the behavior is wrapped up with her already thinking that she's getting the treat, it's not coming together as I had hoped.

She also pulls her lips back when I puff air in her face, so I may try that instead.

Let us know if you figure out how to get Renji to do it! *L*

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That just had me laughing out loud!

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Re: Teach "snarl?"

Hmmm. . .I wonder what board you found that on.

None of us could figure out how to do it. I know Ris will bare her teeth at other dogs (especially if there's an object of contention around) but I would never want to click her for that. I tried tickling her whiskers to get her to raise her lip but it failed. It was either coupled with another behavior (or two) so that I couldn't distinguish it out. Or she got so used to me doing it she stopped moving at all. I also tried just lifting her lip with my fingers and clicking her for that. But I think all I did there was make her less concerned about me playing around with her mouth.

I guess it's just as well. As much as I think it would be cool to teach her such a difficult behavior, with her reactivity, we get enough dirty looks as it is. I'd hate to have her doing this randomly while we're out. Though I may be good enough to realize there's no malice behind it, I know most others are not so good at reading dogs.

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Interesting, I never taught the snarl but I did the smile, because our GSD mix would do the curl of the lip when he saw someone he really loved. As he got older he didn't do it as much but we would aways say Brandy smile and he would.
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I can get my dog to lift her lips when I point the vacuum nozzle at her without even turning it on!

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OMG...I just watched the video posted above! Too funny!

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Vaccuum cleaner, hadn't thought about that .. *L*

Jamie, I understand your concerns about what the public might think ... I have taught Khana to growl on command and afterwards I thought "is that really a smart thing to do?". To HER it's not a growl, though. It's her "speak" - she does a low GRRRR, because that's what I chose to reward. Chows have an amazing range of sounds that they make. It's hard to explain, but they communicate with more grunts, groans, grumbles and squeaks than any dog I've ever heard. But they're not noisy dogs overall - they just have interesting noises. So when I started "speak" with Khana, I chose the low GRRRR as the sound I would reward. Now she'll look at me with that sweet kind face and go GRRRR in a low voice, and it's a communication with me that has nothing to do with a true growl. But OTHERS would probably think she was growling.

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