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[QUOTE=shepherdmom;8423937]So even though Heinz bottle says unfiltered with the mother it is still processed?

No, sorry, I couldn't read the "Unfiltered" on the picture.

This Heinz is Unfiltered and does contain "the Mother" but.....
it is not Organic or NON-GMO, which Bragg's is. So it's just personal preference.

I am so lost as to what is or isn't processed or healthy anymore.

There is quite a debate here in my little town, the guy who runs a local farmers market will go out back and pick a tomato from his garden isn't considered as healthy as going to the big box store and buying one labeled as organic because he doesn't go through all the hoops and fill out all the paperwork to be considered organic. His is fresh grown picked in front of me and tastes a heck of a lot better than what I can buy in the store. Unfortunately a lot of people have gotten involved and are trying to make him jump through those paperwork hoops. Even though he is considered a small farmer and isn't supposed to need to go through those hoops.
Here is why per USDA Organic 101 : https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2013...ganic-products
The use of genetic engineering, or genetically modified organisms (GMOs), is prohibited in organic products. This means an organic farmer can’t plant GMO seeds, an organic cow can’t eat GMO alfalfa or corn, and an organic soup producer can’t use any GMO ingredients. To meet the USDA organic regulations, farmers and processors must show they aren’t using GMOs and that they are protecting their products from contact with prohibited substances, such as GMOs, from farm to table. Organic operations implement preventive practices based on site-specific risk factors, such as neighboring conventional farms or shared farm equipment or processing facilities. For example, some farmers plant their seeds early or late to avoid organic and GMO crops flowering at the same time (which can cause cross-pollination). Others harvest crops prior to flowering or sign cooperative agreements with neighboring farms to avoid planting GMO crops next to organic ones. Farmers also designate the edges of their land as a buffer zone where the land is managed organically, but the crops aren’t sold as organic. Any shared farm or processing equipment must be thoroughly cleaned to prevent unintended exposure to GMOs or prohibited substances.
All of these measures are documented in the organic farmer’s organic system plan. This written plan describes the substances and practices to be used, including physical barriers to prevent contact of organic crops with prohibited substances or the products of “excluded methods” such as GMOs. On-site inspections and records verify that farmers are following their organic system plan. Additionally, certifying agents conduct residue testing to determine if these preventive practices are adequate to avoid contact with substances such as prohibited pesticides, antibiotics, and GMOs.



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So even though Heinz bottle says unfiltered with the mother it is still processed?

No, sorry, I couldn't read the "Unfiltered" on the picture.

This Heinz is Unfiltered and does contain "the Mother" but.....
it is not Organic or NON-GMO, which Bragg's is. So it's just personal preference.

I am so lost as to what is or isn't processed or healthy anymore.

There is quite a debate here in my little town, the guy who runs a local farmers market will go out back and pick a tomato from his garden isn't considered as healthy as going to the big box store and buying one labeled as organic because he doesn't go through all the hoops and fill out all the paperwork to be considered organic. His is fresh grown picked in front of me and tastes a heck of a lot better than what I can buy in the store. Unfortunately a lot of people have gotten involved and are trying to make him jump through those paperwork hoops. Even though he is considered a small farmer and isn't supposed to need to go through those hoops.
Here is why per USDA Organic 101 : https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2013...ganic-products
The use of genetic engineering, or genetically modified organisms (GMOs), is prohibited in organic products. This means an organic farmer can’t plant GMO seeds, an organic cow can’t eat GMO alfalfa or corn, and an organic soup producer can’t use any GMO ingredients. To meet the USDA organic regulations, farmers and processors must show they aren’t using GMOs and that they are protecting their products from contact with prohibited substances, such as GMOs, from farm to table. Organic operations implement preventive practices based on site-specific risk factors, such as neighboring conventional farms or shared farm equipment or processing facilities. For example, some farmers plant their seeds early or late to avoid organic and GMO crops flowering at the same time (which can cause cross-pollination). Others harvest crops prior to flowering or sign cooperative agreements with neighboring farms to avoid planting GMO crops next to organic ones. Farmers also designate the edges of their land as a buffer zone where the land is managed organically, but the crops aren’t sold as organic. Any shared farm or processing equipment must be thoroughly cleaned to prevent unintended exposure to GMOs or prohibited substances.
All of these measures are documented in the organic farmer’s organic system plan. This written plan describes the substances and practices to be used, including physical barriers to prevent contact of organic crops with prohibited substances or the products of “excluded methods” such as GMOs. On-site inspections and records verify that farmers are following their organic system plan. Additionally, certifying agents conduct residue testing to determine if these preventive practices are adequate to avoid contact with substances such as prohibited pesticides, antibiotics, and GMOs.



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Ok so next time braggs it is if I can find it local

Thanks for the info! Very interesting reading.

I'm still not sure why that applies to this guy. He is one old guy with a small 5 acre parcel in the middle of the desert with nothing nearby. And I mean nothing but sagebrush and dirt... He isn't claiming to be organic, but he is the ONLY source for fresh grown local produce. Otherwise its a 30 min drive to the Walmart. We have 2 casinos, 3 liquor stores and a dollar store. It's very frustrating when local idiots sabotage one of the few good things about living in a small town.
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Garlic is fantastic for dog's!

Great medical properties if fed in the correct amounts! I have a list if you'd like it + statements of support by leading Vet's.

I also have a chart of proper amounts to feed. Some people here feed the Springtime Garlic Powder.

Next time you make your bone broth, just leave out the onions, which should not be fed to our pets.


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Sorry I just thought of one more question.... So if the amount of Garlic used in the study was super high, would that be the case with the onions as well? I use one onion to 6-8 quarts of bone broth. I hate to leave the onion flavoring out.
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Sorry I just thought of one more question.... So if the amount of Garlic used in the study was super high, would that be the case with the onions as well? I use one onion to 6-8 quarts of bone broth. I hate to leave the onion flavoring out.

You can use 1 or 2 cloves of Garlic in your mix but I would definitely leave the Onions out of your bone broth, if sharing it with your dog, and season your own portion with Onion Powder.

Dr. Sophia Yin:

"You're probably asking yourself, “What dog or cat with brains would eat onions?” Well, the onions don't have to be raw. They can be fried as in onion rings, dehydrated, as in Lipton Soup, or prepared in some other tasty form such as sautéed with mushrooms and steak, or hidden in a souffle. In a scattered rash of cat onion toxicity cases a number of years back, the culprit was onion powder used to flavor some baby foods. Veterinarians often temporarily feed meat baby food to cats who are infirmed and unwilling to eat their regular foods. So when the baby food formulations changed, some cats took a turn for the worse while under veterinary care. Due to public pressure baby foods no longer contain onion powder."


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You can use 1 or 2 cloves of Garlic in your mix but I would definitely leave the Onions out of your bone broth, if sharing it with your dog, and season your own portion with Onion Powder.

Dr. Sophia Yin:

"You're probably asking yourself, “What dog or cat with brains would eat onions?” Well, the onions don't have to be raw. They can be fried as in onion rings, dehydrated, as in Lipton Soup, or prepared in some other tasty form such as sautéed with mushrooms and steak, or hidden in a souffle. In a scattered rash of cat onion toxicity cases a number of years back, the culprit was onion powder used to flavor some baby foods. Veterinarians often temporarily feed meat baby food to cats who are infirmed and unwilling to eat their regular foods. So when the baby food formulations changed, some cats took a turn for the worse while under veterinary care. Due to public pressure baby foods no longer contain onion powder."


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