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Mikkos first herding lesson

Well, technically his second but it's been a few years since the previous one.
He had a great time and was obsessed with the sheep! The trainer said he had a strong insinct. He obviously needs to respect her a bit more- not sure if it was me or my husband working him if he'd listen to us better?

Here's a video of the trainer working with him. What do you think?

Mikko's herding lesson 6/3/12 - YouTube

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That is so awesome! I'd really like to try that with my own dog! Nice work Mikko!

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That is so awesome! I'd really like to try that with my own dog! Nice work Mikko!

Thanks, Willy! I bet Pimg would love it too!

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Yeah... I think she'd love it so much that she would attempt to eat the sheep. I really do want to try, but I'm afraid she might be a bit too aggressive to the livestock. Though I'm sure a good trainer would be able to control that.

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Yeah... I think she'd love it so much that she would attempt to eat the sheep. I really do want to try, but I'm afraid she might be a bit too aggressive to the livestock. Though I'm sure a good trainer would be able to control that.
Lol. Yeah, Mikko's on a long line and wasn't allowed to work off of it- I'm sure a trainer would do that with Pimg first too. Hopefully, he'll start to listen a little more.



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We've been herding for about a year- Mikko did a fine job! He's very focused but after a few minutes he did get out away from them when she told him to, which shows he was listening and obeying without taking his eyes off of the sheep- that's what you want. He definitely has the whole concept. I imagine the trainer will have you do the training from now on. Until the next lesson work on his 'down' and recall. Instead of 'come' say 'here to me' because that's part of the terms you'll be using as you progress. He must learn how to obey from a distance. It takes a while but he'll start to put it all together. It's natural for him to want to nip and lunge at them initially but he'll figure out that he won't be allowed to work the sheep unless he does it your way. It's such a fun sport and very addicting!!
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Good job, Mikko!

Wildo, I think Pimg would love herding. Try it. When we tried it with Frieda, I was afraid she would totally lose it and aggressively go after the sheep. She is a dog that has big problems with impulse control, but when we tried herding she had an amazing degree of self control. I was shocked.
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We've been herding for about a year- Mikko did a fine job! He's very focused but after a few minutes he did get out away from them when she told him to, which shows he was listening and obeying without taking his eyes off of the sheep- that's what you want. He definitely has the whole concept. I imagine the trainer will have you do the training from now on. Until the next lesson work on his 'down' and recall. Instead of 'come' say 'here to me' because that's part of the terms you'll be using as you progress. He must learn how to obey from a distance. It takes a while but he'll start to put it all together. It's natural for him to want to nip and lunge at them initially but he'll figure out that he won't be allowed to work the sheep unless he does it your way. It's such a fun sport and very addicting!!

Thanks, Stosh! I will work on his downs from a distance. His obedience and recall is generally really good, but there's generally not sheep involved either I'm lookin forward to going again- I've been looking for a local trainer for years (since agility is our #1 sport, I didn't want to drive too far or spend too much money on herding). He really, really loves it!

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Yeah, obedience goes out the window when they're in with the sheep- at least for a while. You can look at the AKC website and download a lot of info about herding. There's a really good glossary of terms included. There's a good book called "Herding Dogs" by Vergil Holland. It talks about all kinds of breeds instead of just border collies and there are good cartoonish drawing that are so helpful. Enjoy and keep us posted
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