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post #1 of 69 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 04:49 PM Thread Starter
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Carly and the eye saga

Carly is my 9 year old girl. Sheís very healthy, no arthritis, etc. About 2 months ago, her eyes suddenly sunk in, and got very red and baggy. I thought she was having a stroke. When my vet saw her, one eye had had almost gone back to normal, but her right eyeball had started to swell. He was stumped, and said he had no clue what was going on. Her eyeball was filled with blood. She was acting perfectly normal, chasing the cat, playing with Scarlet, eating, drinking. Nothing out of the ordinary. It didnít appear to be an injury.

So I made her an appointment with the eye vet. The pressure in both eyes was in the normal range, and after examining her, said she was stumped too. Her eyeball was big, and red, and didnít appear to be painful. She did say that we could try and treat with drops, but in her opinion Carly would ultimately lose her eye.

Back to my regular vet for lots of bloodwork, which was really good. Healthy old girl. The two vets talked back and forth, and today Carly had her right eye removed at the eye clinic. Iím sad, and a little freaked out, and feel overwhelmed. Antibiotics, pain meds, cold packs, hot packs, keeping Scarlet away from her. Argh. Sheíll have to go to work with me until her eye heals.

I brought her home about 45 minutes ago, and sheís very loopy. She got on the couch for a few minutes, but then slithered off and got in her crate in the mud room. Unfortunately, the Amazon guy dropped off packages at my front door, and she blasted out of the crate, barking. Ugh. Sheís back in the mud room right now.

Oh, yeah. Of course Scarlet comes in heat today to top it all off. Kill me now.

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CARLY ......... Ch. Lauremi's No Reservations (AKC GCh pointed, HIC)
SCARLET ..... Lauremi's Almost Wasn't (AKC pointed)
and absent friends... SAGE ~ Lauremi's Whim Z v Jakmar ~ AKC major ptd, HIC ~ 2010-2015
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Oh, your poor girl. That is a difficult decision but the right one. Could it have been a fungal infection behind the eye? My old vet, who died years ago, once treated my old GSD for that without an official diagnosis. They said by the time they tested, the dog could have died. We got a certain antibiotic, I think. It was about 12 years ago and I donít remember which meds they used. At the time it was not a common illness or treatment. A friend lost a rescue Akita due to a strange eye disease, where its eye bulged and it could not be treated.

A family memberís dog lost an eye due to a dog attack and it was a very painful and difficult healing process. Hopefully your dog wonít have that kind of discomfort since it was done intentionally. But give her plenty of healing time to get back to her old self.
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Carly and the eye saga

Once itís all healed up, Carly wonít even care. She takes everything in stride. Iím the one thatís all stressed out. I feel like I need to stare at her to make sure sheís okay, and sheíd rather go in the dark mud room and get in a crate.

I didnít get a chance to talk to the eye vet after her surgery, but I will when I take her back for her check up.
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CARLY ......... Ch. Lauremi's No Reservations (AKC GCh pointed, HIC)
SCARLET ..... Lauremi's Almost Wasn't (AKC pointed)
and absent friends... SAGE ~ Lauremi's Whim Z v Jakmar ~ AKC major ptd, HIC ~ 2010-2015

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A no good horrible very bad day(s).
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I have photos. Not from today (yet) but of the progression of this thing.






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CARLY ......... Ch. Lauremi's No Reservations (AKC GCh pointed, HIC)
SCARLET ..... Lauremi's Almost Wasn't (AKC pointed)
and absent friends... SAGE ~ Lauremi's Whim Z v Jakmar ~ AKC major ptd, HIC ~ 2010-2015
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Oh no, I am so sorry that you and Carly are going through this. I'm sure she'll feel better soon and be back to her old self.
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Carly and the eye saga

Oh my goodness yeah thankfully the other eye is okay. They can do great with one eye wonít slow her down a bit but what would cause this. I have not seen anything like that. Did she have any scratches on her eye or mentioned fungal eye infections. Luna had scratch on her eye once they looked very red and weird to me but cleared up with medicine. I have no idea where she got the scratches from. One time she had something irritated her eyes bumps on eyelid from a tick bite Iím forgetting the name And went away on antibiotic and eye ointment.


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Itís just a mystery.

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CARLY ......... Ch. Lauremi's No Reservations (AKC GCh pointed, HIC)
SCARLET ..... Lauremi's Almost Wasn't (AKC pointed)
and absent friends... SAGE ~ Lauremi's Whim Z v Jakmar ~ AKC major ptd, HIC ~ 2010-2015
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I know this operation is intense for owners. I've been there. Take a deep breath. They recover SO well from it.



One of my dogs had a double-enucleation at the vet ophthomologist after a long saga of inoperable cataracts and glaucoma. He looked awful following the enucleation -- he was quite pitiful looking the day we brought him home! It was so bad that some lady I didn't know literally sobbed in the lobby when she saw him. He had a swollen face with lots of bruising, etc. because they have to disconnect some of the muscles around the eye, so there's some facial trauma during the surgery. He had RX pain meds that were great at bringing down the swelling and keeping him doped up for a few days. However, mine healed VERY quickly. I think three days after the surgery, he already looked about 75% better.



I'm glad that you had the specialist do the surgery. I've been WAY happier with the way the specialist does enucleation vs. a generalist vet -- even though it costs a lot more. The rescue has had a few glaucoma enucleations done by a generalist to save money, and while they were successful with good outcomes, I really think the aesthetics of it is a lot better when done by the ophthalmologist. Ours put a small round medical device in the empty cavity and permanently closed the eye over it, and it kept the facial shape without any sinking of the eye cavity -- and no visible, ugly third eye-lid either. Something about oldster's face kind of looks like a toy with closed eyes -- very adorable looking. I think it cost 3x more to have the specialist do it, but I've never regretted it because she did such a great job.


One suggestion just in case the other eye ends up going this way too...start training her with notice cues just in case she loses all vision. For example, on a daily basis, we use: touch, step up, step down, watch out!....etc. It's just a matter of reminding yourself to use the word when that act occurs so that the dog makes the association. Touch is a hugely important cue for us, as nobody reaches out and surprises the dog, even to pet him -- it's about respecting his space, and he loves that. Don't despair if it goes that way! Vision is a tertiary sense to them after scent and sound, and they adjust magnificently.



Best wishes for Carly's recovery!
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My regular vet said if she was his dog, heíd have the eye vet do the surgery. It was more expensive, but sheís done waaay more of them. Carly actually doesnít look bad at all. Her face is dark, and her other eye is dark. It all kind of blends in.

Sheís just camped out in her crate with the door open. Iím a mess. If she ever comes out, I need to let her out to pee, give her some more water. See if she wants a little bit to eat. Put a cold pack on her eye (this unnerves me a little, lol), give her an antibiotic.

I might have to murder Scarlet. She absolutely doesnít understand why she canít see Carly.

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CARLY ......... Ch. Lauremi's No Reservations (AKC GCh pointed, HIC)
SCARLET ..... Lauremi's Almost Wasn't (AKC pointed)
and absent friends... SAGE ~ Lauremi's Whim Z v Jakmar ~ AKC major ptd, HIC ~ 2010-2015
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