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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 01-01-2014, 01:31 AM Thread Starter
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Vet calls a it strange case with discovery of a series of other problems

My 5 month pup, Loki is in the hospital for 3 days now, have been crying and I just need to vent and share my experience here.

Had to take Loki to the vet for sudden onset of lethargy, dehydration. I was changing his kibble from Proplan to Origen and was prob doing the transition bit too quick, and he started having pudding poo for 3 days but i thought id just feed pumpkin through the rest of the transition. It helped only a bit, but Loki was energetic and eating and drinking normally.

I was on my night shift and I have my dog walker sit him till 1030 pm, I get a text later that night from my Dog walker he vomited brown stuff, kibble and the pumpkin twice and diarrhea. I come home he is barely excited, just wagging his tail but no scratching the crate and bouncing towards me. I took him out, peed alot, squirted small amt of liquid poop and then one small ball, I expected more. I take him back in, doesnt want to drink at all and was so lethargic. His head was down, ears down i managed to syringe feed him 100cc and hoped on a cab to the vet.

He was to stay for the day and maybe overnight for hydration, bloodwork, x-ray, to check for bowel obstruction, etc... Loki looked soo sad but was amazingly cooperated with everything. I get a call xray shows no obstruction, blood work was normal except some elevated WBC/neuts. He was hydrated but still lethargic. They said they were closing at 7 and will be back at 8 am and suggested if i wanted to send him to a emerge 24hr clinic. I come to see and Loki doesnt lift his head to even greet me. So he was transfered overnight and we decided to to ultrasound to rule out any obstruction the xray could not show. In the am I come after my nightshift Loki seems better and started eating and drinking he came to greet but then went back to bed shortly after. The poop exam becomes positive for Parvo but the vet thinks its a false positive, Loki just got his parvo vaccine and he is older and has improved appetite and energy. Will retest in a month.

They said the ultrasound showed no obstruction and were thinking he just has Gastroenteritis. But they also found an abscess in his abdominal wall and they took a sample and it had bacteria. Have no idea where it came from, they asked if got bitten there, Loki gets picked on at times but I dont remember any injuries. He started antibiotics. The vet noticed his R carpal/wrist swelling i said just leave it for now, but after 6 hours it had swollen up and was painfull. Xrays showed Lucency, possible joint effusion...and they dont know what was the cause whether trauma, infection, etc.. Had an orthopedic surgen come and took a fluid from his joint for C+S to see if theres any infection. Results will be a few days. But meanwhile they xray all his other joints and radiology consult found minimal inflamation on the others as well. The test for C+S will take a few days more, but they were 95% confidence Loki has a side effect reaction from his vaccine since all of his joints had some swelling as opposed if just his right wrist if it was infection. He was started on steriods. Even though the orthopedic surgen said she was 95% sure it was a vaccine side effect, he needs careful monitoring just in case the Parvo result was indeed true. Steroids would lower his immune system and the Parvo could take over. Meanwhile if we waited 4 days more for the C+S result, Loki would be in pain from swelling and longer hospitalization

So here I am now on to day 3, New year plans ruined, and barely ate or slept the past few days. It really was frustrating coz, what I thought was just to have a simple IV hydration, lead to discovery of more things with unknown sources, several tests. Loki was xrayed so many times and I was left in limbo most of the time while waiting for results. Its unfortunate my trial of pet insurance expired and I was just busy with work and the holidays to get a new one. I was researching and wanted to go with another company so I was literally going to apply on my next day off. My vet bill currently are marking 4000 dollars not including the meds or food he will need when he gets home. I just really hope Loki is better in the morning so I can take him home cause I miss him so much and it saddens me to see my happy sweet puppy very down. I fear for any pernament damage. I just wished it wasnt New Years

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It sounds like a total mess and i am very sorry Loki and you are going thru this hugs
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I am so sorry for you and praying for you and your Loki. Stay strong. I'm sure Loki will be fine. Just keep having positive thoughts and think happy. Try to have a good New Year.
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I am so sorry this is happening to your baby!
Was this a combination vaccination that your dog got or a single shot of Parvo?
These sites have valuable information about vaccinations: Adverse Reactions to Vaccine: Treatment and Management | Truth4Dogs
Parvovirus | Dogs Naturally Magazine
I would suggest a vet who specializes in Homeopathy to help your dog get detoxed from this.

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I hope he is better soon.
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I'm sorry you're going through this. I know it's frustrating, heart breaking, and makes one feel so helpless. (hugs)

good thoughts going out for Loki and you.

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Poor buddy

I would let the drug manufacturer know. Have your vet tell you the vaccine lot number. Perhaps it was a bad batch.

Sending healing vibes to your pup. Keep us updated.
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i wish your dog a speedy recovery.
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I always worry about AIHA when a dog has had a recent vaccination and then the weird things start happening. What was his blood count like? (HTC) How about his gum color?
I had a 5 month old GSD get a vaccination for Parvo and a few days later started acting like this. Ended up with auto immune hymalitic anemia. She was on steroids for 6 months along with other meds to treat this. Cost me thousands of dollars. She made it, majority don't.
Some vets have no clue about AIHA, they look for other things. Ask about AIHA.
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So the Vet just called me, Loki is bouncing off the crate and is ready to go home. I'll pick him up in a couple hours. Loki will be going home with steroids and antibiotics and I will slowly have to return to his old kibble. Even though people dont prefer Proplan and that Origen is supposed to be amazing, it doesnt work for every puppy.
So The vomiting and diarrhea is prob food related, but the abscess in his belly is still a mystery and will prob need follow up to see if the antibiotics can clear it.
His joint swelling did turn out as a side effect of the vaccine, he got Parvo, Lepto, and distemper. He got a auto-immune poly arthritis where his immune system overreacted to the vaccine and hought that the good cells where bad cells thus the swelling. The lethargy and loss of appetite could be related to this aswell. Thankfully I disnt get the anemic side effect
Good thing is, if we treat the cause, the arthritis could go away. Provided Loki us still young we have a good chance.

ThAnk you all for listening and the kind support! Hopefully it will help people who might end up with the same situation. Ill post again when I get him home!
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Glad to hear your pup is making good way

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