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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-27-2009, 06:49 AM Thread Starter
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Hi, I've been reading another thread about this here. My Jasmine, 10 1/2, is very vocal, and has been for a couple months making deep groaning noises at times when she lies down, as if something is uncomfortable for her. She's clingier. She's also been "hiding" in the yard, something my last shepherd did shortly before death. While I thought that a physical "imbalance" between her left and right sides was due to her arthritis, dysplasia, and spondylosis, I became suspicious of that as well. She is also having intestinal issues, problems with diarrhea that I associated with her love of getting into the bathroom trash when she can, eating cat poop outside when she can, and/or her food (so I changed it). Luckily (?) she had it in the house one day recently, and I noticed blood in it. I knew I had to get her back to the vet.

I took her in for x-rays. She has a huge tumor on her spleen and the vet believes it is hemaniosarcoma.

I'm not sure that I want to put a 10 1/2 year old dog through surgery. What I'm reading on the Internet is disturbing. They're saying dogs generally die 6 - 8 weeks after a tumor is found? Odd...when I think of her behavior and other things over the past year, I would think that the tumor started to grow about a year ago. Possible?

I'm going to gather information and call the vet next week to decide how we will deal with this. Any info you can share would help. Thank you!

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I don't really have any advise, but I do offer my heart felt hugs and support to you during this time. Know that whatever you decide will be the right thing for you and Jasmine.

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I'm so sorry to hear about Jasmine. I lost my Bram to hemangiosarcoma in 2005. Unfortunately the first I knew was when he collapsed. he went to surgery but passed away a few hours afterwards. You can do chemotherapy for hemangiosarcoma, but I haven't had any experience of it personally.

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So sorry to hear this!

When we went through this, I was also reluctant to put our dog through a surgery. We were told that if it had metastasized, it would be best to put him down on the table. We elected to first do an ultrasound to see if that might give us more information. In our case, the U/S doc was able to see the many lesions on his spleen and many suspicious ones on his liver. He told us that while he could not identify definitively without a biopsy, the symptoms and U/S findings were classic HS that had very likely involved the liver as well as the spleen. We did not do the surgery.

This was what felt right to us - others elect to go directly to the surgery, which is the best way to know for absolute sure. None of the choices are wrong - with such a devastating disease - each person must make the choice that is best for them, their dog, and their family.

It will help a lot to talk to your vet again - having a couple of alternatives with potential outcomes will either point directly to a choice or show an opportunity to gather more information.

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I'm so sorry to hear your news

There are cancer diets and supplements that can help, and that can also hopfully make her more comfortable. This is a devastating disease - too many posts on this board alone about it.

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I was lurking and saw your post. I had to register so I could tell you our story. I took my dog in 2 weeks ago for what I thought was bloat. It turned out to be nothing but they were concerned with what they though was a tumor of his spleen. The x-ray looked like there was a large tumor. My vet sent me over to a specialist so they could look via ultrasound.

The doctor did the ultrasound and said his spleen looked somewhat enlarged or irregular shaped but it didn't scream tumor. The x-rays did look like a tumor. They did biopsy several areas of the spleen and sent them off for testing. The test came back "normal splenic tissue." No hemangiosarcoma like they had originally thought.

He has no explanation as to why his spleen is shaped in such a way. We have to go back on July 6th for a checkup and possibly a CT scan. He did say that GSD's are know to have enlarged spleen for whatever reason.

I have no idea if this applies to your situation. I just wanted to encourage you to think about more testing. Maybe at least have a look on ultrasound. Before they did the biopsy, he scared the crap out of me. I cried for two days waiting for results even though after the ultrasound, they felt better that it didn't look like typical hemangiosarcoma.

I hope this helps some.

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The internet is pretty gloomy on the topic - up to 3 mos from detection without surgery - 3 to 6 with. Chemo may get some more months but this stuff seems to be nasty. They thought they got clear margins on Barker the Younger but by the end of January she had another bleed with a liver that looked like junk when it had looked pristine in November.
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I need to correct the last post 0 from detection w/out surgery (she was bleeding out) up to 3 months after surgery w/out Chemo; 3 to 6 mos with chemo. I opted for everything I could do.
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