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Q&A -- What is the responding difference between pet and SD?

Q. When I am having a panic attack I find it comforting to snuggle with my dog and she licks my face until it is over. Could this be counted as a task?

A. No, such behavior is a benefit of owning a dog for any owner when we become sad or upset.

It is the manner in which a dog responds to panic attacks that makes the difference between the actions of a loving pet and a task trained SD. Both pets and SDs can cuddle, lick and snuggle which is all part of being our companions.

A trained SD will know what to do such as bring meds or other needed items. They may go alert another member of the household. They may have been trained to retrieve a phone. They may lead you to an outside door if you begin to panic in a crowded store. They may have been trained to find a quiet area for you.

A loving companion is passive with a "hold your hand" type of approach while you are going through your attack while a trained responder does something active to try to keep your attack from escalating and also going into a work mode to bring it down to where you can again handle it.

The trained SD knows how to work in such a situation and react as a partner while a companion basically hangs in with you while waiting for all to be well again.

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At first I thought SD meant "show dog" very informative! Well writen
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Ive heard of people talking about how their service dog is trained to lick the person's face or lay across a person during an anxiety attack. The reason being for example bring them out of it, "ground" the person or to or stop dissociation episodes. Would this be a task and how is this different from the licking/snuggling mentioned in the OP?


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I wonder if the training to lay across them comes from the stuff Temple Grandin figured out with the squeeze shoot. Babies feel naturally more comfortable with swaddling - being wrapped snugly in a blanket so maybe the pressure from the dog laying on a person having a panic attack works the same way. I suffer from panic attacks but don't like to be held down, but maybe if I trained Raina to help me like that it might help. I know this isn't what the thread is about but it did bring the thought up. Of course pet dogs can lick and cuddle but like it has been said, trained assistance dogs do other stuff as well such as getting help or helping the person to a door.

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I wonder if the training to lay across them comes from the stuff Temple Grandin figured out with the squeeze shoot. Babies feel naturally more comfortable with swaddling - being wrapped snugly in a blanket so maybe the pressure from the dog laying on a person having a panic attack works the same way. I suffer from panic attacks but don't like to be held down, but maybe if I trained Raina to help me like that it might help. I know
this isn't what the thread is about but it did bring the thought up. Of course pet dogs can lick and cuddle but like it has been said, trained assistance dogs do other stuff as well such as getting help or helping the person to a door.
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I think the term for a dog helping with grounding is deep pressure therapy. Certain target points are used to help the person. In public, they would likely need to be led to a quiet place or out of the crowded area/store before any kind of DPT. Least that is my knowledge for those I have talked with about it.
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So for a personal perspective, Kaiju does DPT for me and also grounds by licking my face, interrupts a compulsive self-destructive habit by licking my hands, and alerts to highly elevated stress/anxiety by nosing my hands.

After teaching him these, it's easy to see where they differ from normal pet cuddling/licking. It is still licking, but because it's a method of conveying information, Kaiju's been taught not to give up until I give him a certain word that lets him know I understand what he's alerting me to. So even if I push him away or yell at him, he'll keep doing it until I can convey that I understand. A normal pet would probably cower/turn away if they were pushed/yelled at, but Kaiju's been conditioned so that it just rolls off his back because his job isn't to comfort me, it's to make sure I know "hey, if you keep this up, you're going to have a panic attack."
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Pax, what is DPT? This is a wonderful thing Kaiju does, how long was her/his training, and which organization did Kaiju come from, or did you do the training? What else does Kaiji alert you to?
Sorry so many questions, its very interesting..


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So for a personal perspective, Kaiju does DPT for me and also grounds by licking my face, interrupts a compulsive self-destructive habit by licking my hands, and alerts to highly elevated stress/anxiety by nosing my hands.

After teaching him these, it's easy to see where they differ from normal pet cuddling/licking. It is still licking, but because it's a method of conveying information, Kaiju's been taught not to give up until I give him a certain word that lets him know I understand what he's alerting me to. So even if I push him away or yell at him, he'll keep doing it until I can convey that I understand. A normal pet would probably cower/turn away if they were pushed/yelled at, but Kaiju's been conditioned so that it just rolls off his back because his job isn't to comfort me, it's to make sure I know "hey, if you keep this up, you're going to have a panic attack."

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Deep pressure therapy?

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