I'm going to warn you way ahead of time that this very topic got blown up in a thread of mine a while ago. I suggest holding back and biting your tongue with some of the members here and what they will say.
Anyhow, I've come to the realization that I can only choose one or the other. I chose to do Shutzhund since Titon's owner has encouraged me to do so since Titon is one of the best puppies (German Shepherd) that he's had in his classes for a while now. He thinks Titon would do fantastic. (Titon's dad is a National SchH3 Champion from Czech.). Must be something in his blood that gives him that awesome drive.
As for the service part of Titon, I chose to do very BASIC things at home that he can help my wife and I with. Doorbell, baby crying, oven timer, phone ringing, etc. This in no way will allow him to become a certified service dog by any means.
I haven't a clue where the warnings are coming from, so I won't comment on those.
As for lines and breeding, it's not about pedigree. My GSD SDIT has the pedigree and then some: Cullen vom Haus Mansfield pedigree information - German shepherd dog
It's about temperament. COULD my dog be a ScH dog? I'm sure he could, if you look at his pedigree alone. But it's about looking at the puppies in the litter and who they are as little creatures. What is best for them? In what jobs would they thrive? You refer to Titon's owner (I'm not sure who you are then?)... but clearly he seems to understand what's best for Titon. If he's a high drive dog, then ScH may a good match for him. We have to look at the whole picture.
That's what I was trying to explain to Diana. She understands the GSD soul very well. We can train a GSD to do a lot, but will he thrive in that role? Shouldn't we pick the dog that is best suited for the job we need him for, if we prefer one job over another? If we want a specific dog, then is it best that we choose the job that is best for him rather than trying to push a square peg into a round hole?
Or perhaps, is it better that we actually perhaps consider getting two dogs -- one for each job? Depending what work the SD needs to do, it may be preferable. Depending on the family's budget, this may be possible, especially if the SD is obtained as an adult (whose health and temperament are well established).
And just for clarification, there is no such thing as a "certified" service dog.
Service dog agencies may (or may not) issue their own documentation.
But there is no official certification for service dogs. An SD should pass a Public Access Test administered by a disinterested (or at least, objective) third party, but even this doesn't happen as often as it should. Sometimes, it's because the self-trainer lives in a remote area and can't find anyone to administer it. Sometimes, it's because the self-trainer isn't aware that this test is an option (it's a nice protection for the PWD and
the public to know that the dog is truly sound). Sometimes, it's because the dog almost certainly wouldn't pass. And surely, there are likely a plethora of other reasons as well. It's not mandatory, after all.
The PAT is the MINIMUM an SD should be able to do for public access. This doesn't include task work.
IAADP Minimum Training Standards for Public Access
Public Access Test - Assistance Dogs International
ADI's webpage lists additional minimal standards based on the type of work (tasks) the dog does (listed in column on left of page):
Assistance Dog In Public Training Standards - Assistance Dogs International
But that's as close as it gets to certification on a national level. Some municipalities may have their own requirements.
Anyhow, no arguments, no conflicts (this section of the board doesn't usually lead itself to arguments anyhow .... ). Just my opinion.