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OK someone help un-confuse me about bi-colors

I had asked this on another thread, but I think it got kinda lost in it. And if someone has already asked this, I apologize in advance. But here's my question about bi-colors:

People will look at a dog and say, "that dog is not a bi-color too much tan". I was under the impression through things I have read and a few people I spoke to that it is not the amount of tan, it is certain characteristics in regards to markings that help determine that. So, penciling on the toes, tar heels, and I know something about the vent but I'm on my mobile and don't remember right now lol. But I read conflicting information, some resources say it IS the amount of tan, but others say it's the markings. Here's a chart that's floating around and I want to know what the argument is, or if this is just an incorrect chart.

Sorry to ask like I said, but I just want to set the record straight!
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I'm no expert,but I always thought the main characteristic was a solid black stomach.If the stomach is tan it would be a blanket back.
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I'm no expert,but I always thought the main characteristic was a solid black stomach.If the stomach is tan it would be a blanket back.
That's what I thought, too. I've never researched it or anything, but that just made sense to me. Looking forward to learning about this!
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that chart is the work of Linda Shaw who I have known for decades , writer and illustrator represented in Das Schaferhund Magazin, Schutzhund USA , Dogs in Canada , etc etc --- book coming out soon The GSD standard .
bi-colour is a pattern which exists in black and tan and in sable .

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that chart is the work of Linda Shaw who I have known for decades , writer and illustrator represented in Das Schaferhund Magazin, Schutzhund USA , Dogs in Canada , etc etc --- book coming out soon The GSD standard .
bi-colour is a pattern which exists in black and tan and in sable .
OK great to know the chart is legit. So, then it's not the amount of tan, it's certain markers that classify it as a bi-color then right? I'm lost nothing new lol

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Learning something new! I never heard of the black stomach.

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Part of the characteristics of a bi-colour are the toe penciling and tar heels. Hard to see in the illustration above, but they are included even in the faded bi-colour example.

Bi-colour Puppies will normally show a lot more black than a black and tan of the same age - that is why people often can tell a bi-colour puppy from a black and tan one.

As an example, here are some puppy pictures of a litter that had sables and bi-colours. Notice the bi-colour pups all have extensive black on them (way more than a black and tan would have at that age, including black underbellies), and the toe-penciling is quite noticeable. In some of the pics you can see the tar-heels too.

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The black bi-color melanistic is my 2nd favorite colored GSD.

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The black bi-color melanistic is my 2nd favorite colored GSD.
same ^ Especially if they're coaties My first would have to be the red/black. Solid blacks are gorgeous too.
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same ^ Especially if they're coaties My first would have to be the red/black. Solid blacks are gorgeous too.
My 1st is blacks and my 3rd are dark sables.

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