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Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

We have a local Sit means Sit dog trainer and I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with them? Any info would be appreciated. Even if they didnt help at all please let me know.

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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

I have not personally used it, but I have a friend that is training with it right now and she loves it and it is working great.
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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

Sit Means Sit is a franchise business, which means that the training is only as good as the individual trainer you end up working with.

I have seen some Sit Means Sit "training" videos on YouTube that made my skin crawl, and I can tell you that I would never allow any trainer to do these things to my dog. I have been equally unimpressed with the local Sit Means Sit trainers' demonstration at dog events in the area.

Maybe some of the other franchise trainers with Sit Means Sit are better, but what I've seen is enough for me to recommend you're extremely cautious and go check out some of their training sessions before even considering giving them your money and training with them.

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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

what is it exactly?

my dog knows sit means treat! lol
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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

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Originally Posted By: Fransheskawhat is it exactly?
"Sit Means Sit" is the name of a dog training company started by Fred Hassen that has franchises (ie, individually operated schools) across the US. Their primary way of training is with the e-collar.

Here's one of Fred Hassen's training videos -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVoa7zXzDxs

I notice that, since I've last viewed this video, they have removed every single negative comment that had been left on it.

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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

Fred Hassen is extremely heavy handed with the button. I would be very cautious of any trainer that has trained under him. JMO

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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

I just watched that video and NOT impressed.

My issue here is not with the e-collar per se, but the idea from the handler's own mouth that there was no other way to do this. Listen to the guy - he's TOTALLY deadpan. No inflection, no enthusiasm. Yank and tug. Who would want to look at him? Has he even communicated to the dog that that's what he wants? And he keeps talking about how he's "stamped down hard" on previous problems. I wouldn't want to look at that guy either!

I have trained many many many dogs that had way worse attention problems than this dog using a clicker and the results were much more spectacular and there was no anxiety from the dog like you see here or "working through the turbulent" period.

And aside from all that - the dog clearly has some major arthritis issues, so I gotta wonder how much pain might my limiting his enthusiasm.

If someone wants to use an e-collar, there are better options than this guy.


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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

i like training to be fun for both dog and owner

so no, i dont think that training method is for me
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Re: Has anyone tried the Sit means Sit dog training?

I'm new here but not new to dogs. Could not even finish watching that video! My question is a dog that is 10 years old (correct me if that is not what was said at the beginning of that video) with extreme pain from arthritis, needs training!!??? What was done with that dog for the last 9 years and 10 months of his life? Perhaps some arthritis medication in and of itself would help and a positive training approach.

I love to see dogs happy to be learning, complying because they know what is expected. Hurting anything to get it to comply IMPO is wrong. I've seen those collars used wrong ninety percent of the time and also seen the damage from that. Not impressed at all. To me they are the lazy way to train a dog, if you want to call that training. So sad.

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Quote:My question is a dog that is 10 years old (correct me if that is not what was said at the beginning of that video) with extreme pain from arthritis, needs training!!??? What was done with that dog for the last 9 years and 10 months of his life? Perhaps some arthritis medication in and of itself would help and a positive training approach.
According to the dog's owner in the video, the dog's major issue was that he was very dog aggressive. I don't think I saw aggressive behavior in the video, even with all the other dogs around. The owner said that the dog had his CD and BH titles ("did the BH twice") and that dog aggression was what he needed to work on.

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