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LuvShepherds 09-23-2019 05:01 PM

Natural Rearing
Have you heard of this and what do you think of it? I ran into it when researching breeders of a different breed that are raised with these practices. Some are what we are already doing, like feeding raw and not speutering because a dog has turned 6 months old. But some seem extreme, like no vaccines, no crates, no flea control, no medications, no scents of any kind in the home, only organic bedding, no separation at all from your dog. I found a few sites that explain it, and it looks like each site has some differences.

LuvShepherds 09-23-2019 05:03 PM

Sunsilver 09-23-2019 05:11 PM

What a load of horsepucky!! Homeopathy is B.S. Just finished reading the section on vaccinations...nope, nope nope!!

wolfy dog 09-23-2019 05:21 PM

Sounds more like neglect in some ways. There is no natural way to raise a dog unless you practice the ancient way; "survival of the fittest", which would kill most of our domestic dogs.

MineAreWorkingline 09-23-2019 06:07 PM

I don't know. I think a good place to start is for those of us who are no longer spring chickens to look back to when a lot of this was normal for many dogs and compare it to what we are seeing today.

LuvShepherds 09-23-2019 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by MineAreWorkingline (Post 9196109)
I don't know. I think a good place to start is for those of us who are no longer spring chickens to look back to when a lot of this was normal for many dogs and compare it to what we are seeing today.

That is where they started, with a middle aged dog that passed of old age diseases. I agree with some of their assertions but itís not possible to avoid vaccinations legally and what about parvo?

Sunsilver 09-23-2019 06:38 PM

So, you want to go back to when whole litters died of distemper and other preventable diseases?
Or how about when dogs spread rabies to humans?

The link I clicked on is talking about using small amounts of a pathogen to trigger immunity. Current vaccines mostly contain killed viruses. I hate to think what would happen if someone tried giving their dog a small amount of a live rabies virus!

Sorry, the antivax crowd gets my drawers in a knot. My great uncle, a healthy man in his prime, succumbed to the 1918 flu. A friend in high school had polio as an infant. She was one of the lucky ones: she could still walk and talk and breathe without the help of an iron lung.

Doing titers, fine. I'm okay with that. But homeopathy is junk science.

Thecowboysgirl 09-23-2019 07:00 PM

I have a dog who boards here who is an anti vaxxer, raw fed, western medicine is evil, etc.

She began to have severe lameness. It eventually came out that she has beem diagnosed wih Lyme awhile back but owner refused to treat because antibiotics are evil and the dog will heal itself and so on.

Well the lameness finally got so bad it sidelined her sport career and the owner broke down a treated her but they ran some bloodwork first and her lyme numbers were thru the roof. Lameness and other issues totally resolved with treatment. This dog suffered for nearly a year unnecessarily.

I've had another one come to board with herbs that were supposedly treating her Lyme infection.

This stuff drives me crazy. Within reason, folks! Everything needs to be combined with common sense. ALL traditional veterinary medicine is not evil and gosh but those perscription diets full of grains can really help sometimes.

I don't knock anybody feeding raw or even minimal vax, but everything within reason and a dash of common sense!

And yeah, you don't want to vaccinate or do parasite prevention but you still want to board your dog when you go on vacation? Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

I literally had a woman get furious with me about vaccinating her dogs to board. Look, hire a pet sitter then! You don't want to get state mandated problem, stay home, don't yell at me about it!

LuvShepherds 09-23-2019 07:55 PM

Iíve read more on pages I didnít post because it involved breeders. They recommend not kenneling your dogs so you must have someone come into your home. They also recommend never leaving your dogs alone. How realistic is that?

My vet uses herbs but when mine were sick, they were given antibiotics. There is a way to be holistic to boost natural immunity vs unrealistic expectations.

I see nothing wrong with titers. I was actually thinking about a dog from one of these breeders until I realized I could not pass their enormous application process. The questions were very intrusive and I got the feeling if even one answer was ďwrongĒ you were off their list. I canít post it because of breeder bashing. Iím sure they are good breeders, but with extremely rigid requirements. They are NOT GSDs.

wolfy dog 09-23-2019 08:01 PM

If your dog is not vaccinated and not getting sick it is not because he is healthier than any other dog but because all other dogs are vaccinated (herd immunity) and not able to transmit disease.
(This may open up a can of worms though).

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