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Yes, but....

Deja is obedient to a T. Sometimes, I call her while she is just heading to her private shrubbery area. She stopped, looked at me with, honestly, a question mark in her face, saying, "Yes, I would, but I really need to poop now. Can you wait?" So I tell her, "It's OK, go potty!" She does and happily and relieved she jumps out of her forested relief area. The cool thing is that she doesn't use this 'yes, but' as an excuse for any other situation unless her thinking was smarter than mine. On the contrary I have had a couple of dogs in the past that I couldn't allow this with.
It almost has grown into a human-human conversation. I love it that she is not an obedient robot but that somehow I have given her the room to be her own "person". Never had a dog like that
How about your dogs? How does 'yes, but' work for you?

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My oldest male is like that. It is the only time he blows off a recall but he will come if I repeat it in a stern voice.

What really cracks me up around him is when I am working a puppy who is being unruly or misbehaving and he simply knows that I am not talking to him and gives the younger dog an intense stare for its disobedience or rambunctiousness.
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Ha, ha, one mutt was diligently obedient (I had a group of 4 at that time). They all had to sit before being fed. One of the Whippets would not sit (Whippets don't take obedience very seriously) and that mutt looked at him like, "Hey dude, hurry up, we need to eat'.
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Ha, ha, one mutt was diligently obedient (I had a group of 4 at that time). They all had to sit before being fed. One of the Whippets would not sit (Whippets don't take obedience very seriously) and that mutt looked at him like, "Hey dude, hurry up, we need to eat'.
Cats are very much like that too. Say one cat's name with a warning tone and the others all look at that one to see what it is going on. LOL
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Rumo and I have discussions about our walking route:
R, veering right: "Yes, but...I think I smell cat smell over there!"
Me, refusing to veer right: "Yes, but it's getting dark, we should get home!"
He will always defer to me and let me 'win' if I insist, but he does ask...and sometimes I give in.

Like Deja, he is an obedient guy when it matters, so I don't feel like I have to 'crack down' on him.
I think he can tell when I'm serious about something vs when there's room for discussion...:-)
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I asked not as much from Whippets as I do from the GSDs; they are such opposite breeds (except for the hunting part). One example that I will never forget is when I called one of the of the Whippets in our field and he ignored me and instead started looking around. Me:"Good, he is at least considering it!" Then, when he decided there was nothing better to do, he came happily running up to me. As much as I love Deja, 'considering obedience as an option' is not an option.
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My second GSD turned the household upside down when she came to live with me. She was a 9 month old stray, extremely smart and quite the brat.

Yep, there were times when she considered obedience an option. She'd come, if there was nothing better to do.
I got used to her deciding she just HAD to have one last pee before she came. Then, she'd pretend she'd forgotten I called her, and begin sniffing around again! She was one of those dogs you constantly had to try to be one step ahead of. But, she soon learned that when you said TASHAAAAH, she'd overstepped her bounds, and had better do what was asked.
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Years ago when we got our rescue bearded collie when training her, I thought she was dumb. I eventually figured out she wasn't. She thought, "But, why?", not "Yes, but ". While a lovely, social, family pet, with her innovative and independent way of thinking, she wasn't going to be a good role model, so I waited till she deceased before getting my puppy.

When I tell Nitro to drop when I'm watching TV in the sitting room, we have an understanding he can choose where, on the rug in the sunlight or the shade, or on the cool tiles. I want him to be comfortable.

When I call Nitro inside and he needs to potty first, he pauses to look at me as if to say, "Hold please, I'll be right there", then hurries off to do his business first.

In July I had been very sick, while very ill he slept on my bed. A few nights ago I happened to cough, once, in bed. Nitro came into the bedroom, gave my face a thorough diagnostic sniff, then hopped on the bed and lay down. I need never suffer alone :-D
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Heard about a beardie that was doing scent detection, and decided the item must be in the judge's purse...

Definitly independent thinkers!
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I always know when not to call him because if he has to pee that is most important. But I won’t let him totally blow off commands. If he won’t come, if I have already called him and then realize he is torn between responding and going, I change it to something I know he will do as a reminder, like my Go command, then let him go and pee. I figure it’s my problem for not realizing he needs to go, so I need to be more observing and creative. After he pees, he immediately races over to me to show he is really listening.
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