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Vrijheid Kennel - Thoughts?

I'm looking to get a Dutch shepherd for my next puppy and settled on Vrijheid as the breeder I'd like to buy from. I'm looking for a more driver, confident, intense dog for sport but didn't want another GSD as between my pup and our too cats it's like an old western movie with the tumbleweeds sometimes in our house.

Anyone have any experience or stories they can share about her dogs? I've read her website, watched her videos and emailed with her and I'm currently on the waiting list. Just wondering if maybe I missed something.

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ETA forgot to add their website http://www.dutchshepherds.us

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Although sometimes shorter, a Dutchie is going to have a very similar coat to the GSD, shedding included

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I like brindle dogs, so I like the Dutch over the Belgian. My understanding is that they are basically very similar dogs. Although, I know the Belgian is more popular and there are many reputable breeders out there. If you are set on the Dutch, I would touch base with Bailif on here, he has a couple of Belgians and has commented on the Dutch in a few threads. The breeder you linked has nice dogs and obviously works them. I just wish the breeder would put their location. We live in a big country, it would be helpful to know where they are located.

As an aside, the first time I saw a Dutch was in a news clip talking about different dogs that people get as protoction dogs without training them and how most of them just let the intruder in. Then they did a clip with trained protection dogs. One of them was a nice looking Dutch. They said that dog was 130 pound. I thought to myself that can't be true. I started to read up on the breed and there is no way a Dutch should be that huge. Either they had a mutt or they were lying.

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Although sometimes shorter, a Dutchie is going to have a very similar coat to the GSD, shedding included
Similar but not as bad, essentially like a Mal from my experience.

There's more reasons than the shedding, that was supposed to be a little knowing wink for us German Shedder owners.

But the point of this thread was more about 1 specific kennel than it was about Dutchies in general.

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I like brindle dogs, so I like the Dutch over the Belgian. My understanding is that they are basically very similar dogs. Although, I know the Belgian is more popular and there are many reputable breeders out there. If you are set on the Dutch, I would touch base with Bailif on here, he has a couple of Belgians and has commented on the Dutch in a few threads. The breeder you linked has nice dogs and obviously works them. I just wish the breeder would put their location. We live in a big country, it would be helpful to know where they are located.

As an aside, the first time I saw a Dutch was in a news clip talking about different dogs that people get as protoction dogs without training them and how most of them just let the intruder in. Then they did a clip with trained protection dogs. One of them was a nice looking Dutch. They said that dog was 130 pound. I thought to myself that can't be true. I started to read up on the breed and there is no way a Dutch should be that huge. Either they had a mutt or they were lying.
Thanks for the heads up I'll shoot him an IM!!

She's in Key Peninsula, WA. Used to be in Utah somewhere.

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There are three types of Dutch: wirehair, long coat and standard. Check out the Dutch breeders as well. My experience (with other breeds) is that dogs over there are cheaper while still good quality and it gives you a nice vacation when getting the pup yourself. I am sure a Dutch pup fits in a carry on carrier.
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I see two of them train. They're pretty different, but nice dogs. Both are stable, solid dogs, that are good with people and I've never seen either one show any dog aggression. I think they do well in part because the owner is really good at being methodical and detailed in her training and she's able to progress things in the right steps for each of them. I think I would have made two different types of messes with them.

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I see two of them train. They're pretty different, but nice dogs. Both are stable, solid dogs, that are good with people and I've never seen either one show any dog aggression. I think they do well in part because the owner is really good at being methodical and detailed in her training and she's able to progress things in the right steps for each of them. I think I would have made two different types of messes with them.
Why do you say that?

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There are three types of Dutch: wirehair, long coat and standard. Check out the Dutch breeders as well. My experience (with other breeds) is that dogs over there are cheaper while still good quality and it gives you a nice vacation when getting the pup yourself. I am sure a Dutch pup fits in a carry on carrier.
I'd like to do that one day for sure, visit Germany as well. But it seems a little counterproductive to spend 5k to save a couple hundred

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Why do you say that?
I'm not real detail oriented. I'm more of big picture type, and I think they need the details right the first time. I think they're similar to Mals in that way, out of my league.
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