Well it's a good rebuttal! And it would do Cesar Milan proud (that's not a slam) I like a lot of the things he does; not all, but a lot! When I watch his shows I usually cringe when at the end he sends his clients ..."off to the Dog Park!"
I don't have much faith in JQP's ability to control there dog myself?? And if I can drop names, neither do Jeff Gellman, Peter Crain, Sean O'Shea and Lou Castle! They all are on the record and they advise there clients to "Stay out of the Dog Park!"
I did not need them to tell me that. I figured it out myself from day one! And no dogs harmed in the process.
In the real world if your dog gets hit by another dog ...you were to freaking close! I step aside or cross the street or if that's not an option I am between a passing dog and mine. Not that difficult to do.
I know personally of two Boxers that were left blind in dog v dog encounters. One was a Dog Park encounter and that Boxer lost both eyes! The other Boxer lost one eye and needed 15,000 dollar worth of reconstructive surgery! He's on FB now and the owner was rather vague on details other than a dog attack??
My American Band Dawg never interacted with any dog outside his pack for years. He was also never allowed to or got to be "Reactive on Leash" nonetheless he learned by inference how to behave around other dogs.
Off leash and "On the lawn" one day while I was working on my car in the driveway, my neighbors little piece of crap dog got by me and got right in Gunther's face!! Yap Yap Yap!! Four feet away from him and Struddell on Gunther's flank waiting to see what to do???
My eyes were big as saucer, I said Good Boy and calmly but swiftly got the little miscreant away! No problem, granted it was just my one dog but I know had I taken him to a Dog Park out the gate, he would have been looking to do damage! Plenty of others just like him out there and some of those owner's don't care! Those would be the people "not" on dog boards looking for solutions ..."they " don't have a problem as "they" see it.
But Gunther never got a chance to "practice bad behavior" and he was never a problem. I have worked with more dogs at rescue and I can't really say how they are as regards other dogs I have no problem walking them by dogs, someone else in control, who knows??
There are most likely a lot of Dog Parks out there with good dog owners?? I don't know, but telling people to just say "No to Dog Parks" is "sound advice" in my view and I always "advocate" go with the Pro's.
And since I sigh .... yet again brought up Boxer's here, these are my usual "Dog Park warnings." :
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And stuff to know:
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Dog Parks are an "unacceptable risk" for me, others are free to do as they see fit long as they know.
Cesar recommends dog parks? On what basis?
If you base your opinion on dog parks on the ability of JQP to control their dogs, then please explain to me the difference between JQP taking their dog to a dog park or JQP allowing their dog to run free or walk their dog on the streets? If JPQ can't control their dog at a dog park, then surely they lack that ability when in home territory, even if it is going out to get the mail and the dog slipping out the door as you walk by. A dog attack is a dog attack regardless of where it occurs. In the past year, I have had three attacks on my dogs, one right in front of my house, one in a dog park, and one in an ON leash area in a park. I know it is deeper than that, but based on those attacks, two out of three did NOT occur in a dog park but in other areas being portrayed in this article as safe. I think not and to say so is not just misleading but potentially dangerous. It gives people a false sense of security.
I have frequented many dog parks, and although some can be quite large, or at least I have heard, all that I have been to are not so, and you are right there with your dog. Heck, my own town has a dog park, which I have never frequented, that I would guesstimate is the same size as my own yard. Besides, what makes you so sure that another dog is determined to bite your dog unless the dog is a) possibly dog aggressive so is not a dog park candidate (among many other possibilities, of course), or b) my biggest concern would be a problem owner. It is no secret among dog park enthusiasts that a leashed dog in an unleashed area is usually attached to a problem owner, not the other way around.
Out of the Boxer encounters you mentioned, I would be very curious about the circumstances. Where there treats involved? How about toys? Seriously, how did a dog come to lose both eyes in a dog fight? Do you think if those same two dogs had fought on the street that the outcome might have been different? Egregious as those injuries are, I know of many dogs that have lost their lives to dog attacks while leashed and walking the streets with their owners. One such attack occurred about fifty feet from my home and another two blocks away. In both incidences, there was no owner to remove the agressing dog. I have never seen a dog without an owner or "responsible" person in a dog park although I am sure it happens.
Does it matter what method, as long as the method is humane, is used to prevent or deter dog reactivity? How to "behave around other dogs" is subjective, some want ignore, others want friendly, and a host of gray shades.
One night as I was sitting on my front porch, an OS solid white intact male Boxer came to my front gate. Thankfully my yard is fenced, but I thought things could get ugly with my dominant male. Who would have thought that these dogs decided to have a huge play fest and ran up and down the fence for about a half hour until the owner came for his Boxer? These "playdates" continued until the owner was able to finally permanently secure his dog.
Personally, can't tell you how many times through the years little dogs have confronted my big dogs, never an incident. Perhaps good breeding has a hand in this?
My dogs don't get to practice bad behavior, when it occurs it is corrected. I used to work with dogs in rescues at one time too, the problem dogs were usually the nerve bags, many of which were never let off leash or run free. Barrier aggression and leash frustration can be terrible things if allowed to develop.
I do agree with not having to stick your hand in a pot of boiling oil to learn for yourself, but when things are presented as in this article stating that all these potentially evil harms can come to your dog if you take him to a dog park while denying that all the things mentioned as evil were also a real life potential threat by just walking your dog around your own block at home, I have to cry foul and deceitful.
I have all the respect in the world for Lou Castle, but his statement parallels that of this article and I say prove it. Show me one study done where dog parks are the roots of all those evils. I have a coworker who lives in an apartment, her cat which never goes outside contracted giardia, no dog park necessary. Evidently, it was tracked in. I do agree that you can encounter people looking for bait dogs, but that is not strictly confined to dog parks. That can, and does, occur anywhere. Insofar as somebody not being able to control a pack of dogs they brought in, I have never seen anybody bring in a pack of dogs to a dog park, although it can happen. The same could be said about somebody walking down a street with a pack of dogs.
How do you, or anybody else, know that dogs in training classes are safe dogs? Prove it. Prove they don't have fleas, giardia or a host of other illnesses. It would appear to me that obedience classes could be a hot bed for problem dogs. You read about it on here all the time where somebody has a problem dog and the first thing everybody recommends is training and lots of it.