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Thoughts on Mixing German And American Lines?

So, Ive been looking for a breeder for quite some time now. Ive noticed some of them mix German and american lines, or German and Czech lines. Do these dogs come out with unstable temperament? very few breeders from what Ii have heard of have accomplished this successfully. Also, some breed SHOW and WORK together, thoughts on that too?
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Ha! Raquan - you are following in my footsteps. I think that I innocently managed to post every hot button topic that exists in the past and you are finding them all

Good luck with this one!
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Ha! Raquan - you are following in my footsteps. I think that I innocently managed to post every hot button topic that exists in the past and you are finding them all

Good luck with this one!
Lol thanks. Im cowering behind a rock
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while some frown on it, I myself, had an american show line x an east german PP trained male also used in the fidelco program, he was the best dog ever..I should have cloned him.

I have no objection to mixing lines, but then again I'm not a breeder and when I get a new dog, I know where to go and what I'm getting, which is normally working lines

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The reasoning behind it is to pull the best qualities from each line. It depends on how well the breeders knows the lines being bred and the persons expertise with genetics. Breeding well is very complicated. Since you are looking for a pet, you might want to find a breeder who is repeating a breeding with the same parents. Find out how the dogs from the previous litter turned out. While I'm not a fan of American lines, I know someone who had a cross like that and the dog was astounding. Very strong worker, intelligent and excellent temperament. Father was WGSL, Mother was American.
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I can't speak to the technical details, but I had an American showline x WGSL and she was a great dog.
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while some frown on it, I myself, had an american show line x an east german PP trained male also used in the fidelco program, he was the best dog ever..I should have cloned him.

I have no objection to mixing lines, but then again I'm not a breeder and when I get a new dog, I know where to go and what I'm getting, which is normally working lines
What was his temprement, what side did it lean towards?
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The reasoning behind it is to pull the best qualities from each line. It depends on how well the breeders knows the lines being bred and the persons expertise with genetics. Breeding well is very complicated. Since you are looking for a pet, you might want to find a breeder who is repeating a breeding with the same parents. Find out how the dogs from the previous litter turned out. While I'm not a fan of American lines, I know someone who had a cross like that and the dog was astounding. Very strong worker, intelligent and excellent temperament. Father was WGSL, Mother was American.
Some told me it was an unstable temperament. Like breeding a show with a work.
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It's generally not something successful breeders do. Meaning breeders who compete successfully with their dogs in the respective venues, be it IPO, SV conformation, AKC conformation and so on.

If the experienced and knowledgeable breeders aren't doing this there's a good reason.

Again because of the way genetics works. Remember that highschool biology?

You may end up with a decent dog but you also may end up with worst traits of both or a so-so dog that won't excel at any discipline.

It's not a 'hot topic' it's basic genetic science.
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Just remember, there's no such a thing as a genetic smoothie! LOL!

(and for the literalists out there, it's about stacking the odds for greater potential and positive outcome. This is why some of the experienced breeders on this forum are walking pedigree encyclopedias! )

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