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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-05-2012, 03:26 PM
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Both sides must be respectful, calm, and logical.

That is where the wheels seem to come off the cart in some of the threads.

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As Platos's Socrates said: τούτου μὲν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐγὼ σοφώτερός εἰμι· κινδυνεύει μὲν γὰρ ἡμῶν οὐδέτερος οὐδὲν καλὸν κἀγαθὸν εἰδέναι, ἀλλ' οὗτος μὲν οἴεται τι εἰδέναι οὐκ εἰδώς, ἐγὼ δέ, ὥσπερ οὖν οὐκ οἶδα, οὐδὲ οὄιμαι· ἔοικα γοῦν τούτου γε σμικρῷ τινι αὐτῷ τούτῳ σοφώτερος εἶναι, ὅτι ἃ μή οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι εἰδέναι

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great thread Jocoyn, love the post Hunterisgreat - it's all gibberish, until it makes sense!

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As Platos's Socrates said: τούτου μὲν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐγὼ σοφώτερός εἰμι· κινδυνεύει μὲν γὰρ ἡμῶν οὐδέτερος οὐδὲν καλὸν κἀγαθὸν εἰδέναι, ἀλλ' οὗτος μὲν οἴεται τι εἰδέναι οὐκ εἰδώς, ἐγὼ δέ, ὥσπερ οὖν οὐκ οἶδα, οὐδὲ οὄιμαι· ἔοικα γοῦν τούτου γε σμικρῷ τινι αὐτῷ τούτῳ σοφώτερος εἶναι, ὅτι ἃ μή οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι εἰδέναι
I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed him.

When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and still wiser by himself; and thereupon I tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me.

So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good. I am better off than he is,—for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows; I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him.



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I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed him.

When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and still wiser by himself; and thereupon I tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me.

So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good. I am better off than he is,—for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows; I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him.

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My greek is pretty rusty, but yes it is basically that... Really the last paragraph.

It was *supposed to be* one of those, folks who would benefit from the quote will figure it out themselves, those that wouldn't be bothered to research it would have read and not understood, dismiss as philosophical nonsense, or otherwise been of no use, type of posts... Cryptic by design lol. Oh well

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Excellent post! I agree everyone should read this!
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very nice post..everyone need to reed this post.


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This is a great piece of advice and should be pinned...

It also goes for breeder references - sometimes I shudder when I see posts pushing breeders - pretty photos and expensive websites do not make great breeders

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It is.

Agree on the posts pushing breeders, same with good breeders who may have bad websites, but as we have people of all ages and experience levels participating on here I don't know what can be done about it.

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This is a great piece of advice and should be pinned...

It also goes for breeder references - sometimes I shudder when I see posts pushing breeders - pretty photos and expensive websites do not make great breeders

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Thanks for posting jocoyn. I wish i had the ability to read it before i started on this forums. I think it would have helped me in lots of ways.

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