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Will an injury increase hormones similar to a dog fight?

I know this question is phrased very poorly.

When dogs fight, their body release hormones (is it hormones? I can't remember exactly what it is!), that take several days to come back down to a normal level.

So, will an injury, that causes significant pain, also release those same hormones?

Our house has been fairly quiet lately with no fights between Sierra and Jax. Sierra typically starts them and last time had a pretty good injury from it. Last night, after Jax hurt her leg again, she went after Sierra and then again this morning. We were right there so no damage done. But it seems odd to me that Jax had this injury that hurt her enough that she didn't want to put weight on her leg and couldn't sit comfortably and also decided to pick two fights which is really our of character for her.

Correlation? Or me being crazy?



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I am not sure about the hormones....however. Kaos reacts completely different to Sherman when he is in pain. In fact last time he slipped and fell in the kitchen, after he got up he went over and tried to pick a fight with Sherman. Luckily I shut it down pretty quick. When he has issues with pain, I limit their time together quite a bit, because he is downright grouchy.

ETA....our vet told us she thinks it has more to do with the fact that when he is in pain he is more insecure about his "position" as CHIEF so he acts up.

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Are you referring to the endorphin hormone?
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hmmm....that's interesting...our "chief" if Banshee. Any dog that tries to challenge that post has to deal with me! lol But there is a pack issue between Sierra and Jax. Typically, it's Sierra that starts the fight. It's very, very rare for Jax to do it and that is usually within a couple days of Sierra starting a fight in that time period where their hormone levels need to come back to normal.

WHAT is the name of the hormone that increases!? Is it a stress hormone? Is it even a hormone?



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Are you referring to the endorphin hormone?
I don't know! I don't think I ever knew anything other than a hormone increases because of a fight (stress related, fight or flight response) and it takes a few days for it to return to normal.



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We're studying endocrinology and hormones right now. . . yes it can
Emily - can you please explain how it all works?

This is not a case of Jax reacting to pain caused by someone messing with her leg or Sierra bumping her. It was completely unprovoked. It may have been related to Sierra being near a toy but is still out of character for Jax to react so strongly.



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Presuming that dogs release similar hormones as humans - which may be a big stretch - they release a number of them. Pro‐opiomelanocortin (metabolized into ACTH & endorphin), vasopressin, glucagon, growth hormone, prolactin, all designed to increase metabolism and stimulate immune responses.

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Emily - can you please explain how it all works?

This is not a case of Jax reacting to pain caused by someone messing with her leg or Sierra bumping her. It was completely unprovoked. It may have been related to Sierra being near a toy but is still out of character for Jax to react so strongly.
Is it possible that you missed a look (or they are reading each others minds )? Given that Jax and Sierra have issues and Jax is feeling "vulnerable" right now, it could take just the littles uneasy feeling.

Emily, I'd be really curious to hear it too if you can/have the time to write it out.

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Are you referring to the endorphin hormone?
I thought endorphins generally made you feel good, feel less pain, etc and therefore less likely to fight.
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