The e collar was more a matter of necessity due to the range. Hard to give a dog a treat from an acre away. The type of dogs I had were the type who worked for you praise and affection so a light tap and a strong "no" in whatever form it took was more effective with them because they could see I wasn't happy with what they were doing. Every dog is different tho. There are dogs who are better off as a kennel dog. They come out to work and go back in their kennel.
I'm not a treat kinda guy. I just showed ... what others do ... that's not what I do. Behaviour modification ... is not training, it's a hard freaking NO! And yes an E-Collar gives you standoff distance to correct for a dog making "Poor Choices." It's just mentioned here becasue it is also a viable option but it's not my call.
But getting back to your last point your DA and rank drive issues with rocky are completely different from OPs issue of prey drive with the cats. Also for OPs situation an e collar isn't needed. He's made progress to where the dog isn't chasing or biting the cats and now he justs wants them left completely alone. And in that situation probably a leave it type command every time the dog looks or follows a cat over and over until it understands the cats are off limits will probably work with enough consistency.
That's where we disagree ... for me an out control dog is an out of control ... "why" does not matter. Pack Issues or Cat issues in both cases ... you can't control a dog if you don't know where he is???
So yes different creatures, different situations but same solutions, you have to know where your dog is or you can't correct him??
And the Op said this has been going on for Six years??? That's a bit hard to understand?? But in anycase "Leave it" doesn't mean crap without "consequences" and for me ... "leave it" is not sufficient for my cats." One would not use "leave it for a baby???" And I would not use "Leave It" for my Cat's ... others are of course free to do as they see fit.
So if in fact 6 years of this crap is accurate??? Then compare that to my 24 hour change in attitude dog. "This crap will not stand " is what I did with a dog very similar to the one in the first clip. I kinda sorta just skipped the long introduction work.
But back on point, what the OP has done which does seem to have worked to a large degree??? Has gotten him pretty much as far as it can. It's just about the limits of a "PO" approach. Leave it ... would only work if there dog "believes them" and right now ... the dog does not?? If it did ... he would not have started this thread???
So I suppose they could continue to try and "train" there way out of there dog being annoying with the cats?? Train Place, no free roaming or heck train leave it ...blab, blab. Most likely ... any of those options will work ... "eventually." But it's been six years???
It's just a lot simpler to train a dog to "Make Better Choices." And the quickest most efficient way to do that is by delivering an "aversive" ... make better choices dog or there will be consequences! So for this dog and this owner ... I'd use a "Bonker" if the dog goes after the cats and call it a day.
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