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I have seen a few posts regarding Drive does not equal Energy.



I have read that a higher drive can make training easier as they are easily enticed by their drive. ( I may be misunderstanding what I read). I thought I remembered actually reading that a High Drive can be more difficult as well and worse around kids than a low drive.



How does drive affect going for a hike?



Is a low drive difficult to train but less likely to nip at kids running around?
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IMO most people looking for a great active companion are wanting a medium drive dog. Low drive is not what I would want to work with or even hang out with and super high drive is probably too pushy and too demanding for most pet homes. My dad got an adult female that is medium to medium high drive. She is very good, but sometimes the pushing to play can be a bit much. They do love her, though. If she had been much younger she might have been too much dog for him.
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Lower drive dog lets me take a nap, might even join me, while my higher drive dog drops things on me. Kind of like water boarding only with toys.
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Lower drive dog lets me take a nap, might even join me, while my higher drive dog drops things on me. Kind of like water boarding only with toys.
LOL great description!

My advice would be forget about you assessing a drive category and what you want..choose a reputable recommended breeder (post in "choosing a breeder" section would be good). Tell the breeder about your wants, your life, and your vision of your life with the dog. They will know how to most accurately place one of their puppies.

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Is a low drive difficult to train but less likely to nip at kids running around?
And just as a general FYI any GSD pup or Lab pup or whatever pup is likely to do this. It's a family convo of expectations and a plan on how to handle/redirect etc
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Lower drive dog lets me take a nap, might even join me, while my higher drive dog drops things on me. Kind of like water boarding only with toys.
Love the analogy. Made me laugh !!!
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LOL great description!

My advice would be forget about you assessing a drive category and what you want..choose a reputable recommended breeder (post in "choosing a breeder" section would be good). Tell the breeder about your wants, your life, and your vision of your life with the dog. They will know how to most accurately place one of their puppies.
Exactly. Figure out what you from a gsd and find one that meets your expectations.
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Think of drive as an innate, genetic thing that a dog can't ever "turn off". A dog with high prey drive, for example, will always be excited by prey. And that can translate to balls or any small creature running and making noise, kids included! But that doesn't mean for one second that they can't be trained to differentiate!

High defensive drive is a completely different thing though, so "drivey" versus non "drivey" doesn't do it Justus.

IMHO any dog that is high energy but low drive is a poorly bred dog! You don't want that!

What, as others have mentioned, you really want is a medium drive dog, then set appropriate boundaries and train them! So many people don't for some reason like to tell a dog NO. When in fact, that's the best thing they could possibly do! And mean it when you do, without being angry or out of control!
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I wouldn't concern myself with drive, I would find a reputable breeder and be honest and open about what you expect from a dog and what you can and cannot provide.

My working dog was probably low drive but had off the charts protection drive, so it worked really well. My current dog has is lower drive but crazy hunt and prey drive and she is a happy mess most would not live with. My old man was high drive but super biddable so we made it work.
Drive needs to be balanced and measured with other traits.
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thresholds are also something that is important...drives are described from low to high, thresholds are as important for control as well. I want a high drive, medium to high threshold and a thinking dog. The main drives that are important to me, are pack, food, hunt and fight. Total package when balanced.

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