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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-01-2008, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
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Help evaluating a food

Can someone help me evaluate this food? It is called QC+. I'm looking for a good quality kibble that I can use as a base for Jake's meals. We raise organic chickens and lambs so next growing season we'd be able to supplement with real meat.

So what do you think?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-01-2008, 03:13 PM
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Re: Help evaluating a food

You might want to consider a food that does not have ground yellow corn in it. Some dogs have allergic challenges with this ingredient and most of the high-end premium foods have done away with this ingredient.

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I am not sure I like the calcium level for a pup either. I think Jake is not even 10 weeks yet?

You might look at some other corn free and corn gluten free foods with calcuim in the range of 1%.

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Re: Help evaluating a food

Thank you both. I'll go surf around a little and see what else I can find.

I appreciate the help.

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Re: Help evaluating a food

Just an update --

We are weaning Jake off the breeder's food. He tolerates it pretty well, but has sort of runny poops. So now we will be switching Jake to Blue Buffalo for large breed puppies. I can get it fairly locally and so don't have to pay shipping charges.

It still has 1.2% calcium. Would adding a little chicken, ground beef or lamb to the food help bring that calcium % down beneath 1%?

Many thanks for help!

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1.2 % calcium is perfectly acceptable for a puppy. No need to try and "bring it down".

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Re: Help evaluating a food

as usual, the 1.2% is listed as a minimum. contact them to see that the max. calcium level is in the 1.5% range.

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Re: Help evaluating a food

Thanks. I'll give them a call today.

If the max is above 1.5%, should I use the beef and chicken to bring it down a little?

This is all SO confusing! When we were raising Max we didn't have nearly as many choices. We fed QC+ and didn't know about calcium, corn, and all these issues.

This pup is living quite a different lifestyle!

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You can't just start tossing in meat to bring down the calcium level down because you could end up with a phosphorous level that is too high. If the calcium/phosphorous ratio gets out of whack, you can have problems with calcium absorption (and possibly even renal issues).

It's one thing to give a pup a bit of meat on his kibble as a treat, but we don't want to be trying to offset deficiencies or excesses in the kibble with whole food. We want a good balanced kibble to begin with.

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Yes and thank you. I read and read, but it all seems so contradictory. I finally just called the vet and said, "This is what I am feeding him. How is it?" He said give him a couple of hours to call the companies, call the teaching school at Purdue, and then he'd call me back.

Turns out feeding either the QC+ or the Blue Buffalo for large breed puppies will be fine. He would prefer the BB since it doesn't have corn, wheat or soy. Apparently they are seeing a lot of allergies at the practice lately. The vet also said not to get wrapped up in getting a "perfect poop." Things like stress, teething, growing, gnawing on sticks, etc can cause little changes. Better just to learn what Jake's normal looks like.

I think I'm going to really like this vet. He was polite, prompt, and patient!



So I am going to relax and just enjoy the pup!

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