Sorry guys, I was busy with my start up lately and did not check the forum. Anyway, thanks for all your detailed info! The situation took a turn in the last several days tho, my puppy has had watery stool for 3 days now, and yesterday I took her to the vet. The vet gave me Royal Canin sensitive food and some antibiotics to feed her, she eats that food ok after I rotate putting goat milk and wet food to mix in. However I am worried her pickiness problem will get worse. She now picks on her treats as well, what used to work like magic can now barely get her attention.
However all of that might to due to whatever caused her those diarrhoea as well, tho she has been having food problems for a while now and the diarrhoea is only for the last 3 days. Anyway, I am waiting for the fecal test result, vet took her temperature yesterday which was normal, she was very happy and active as normal as well
Just a thought here, but do you use a topical flea/tick med?
Despite manufacturers’ claims to the contrary, the ingredients of commonly used topical treatments can and do
enter the pets’ internal systems.Merial’s website states that fipronil (the active ingredient in Frontline, Parastar, EasySpot and
the new over the counter Sentry Fiproguard), is absorbed into the sebaceous glands of the skin which provide a natural reservoir, creating the impression that it does not migrate into the dog’s body. Dr. Dobozy of the EPA’s Pesticide Division took a look at fipronil and found that it does in fact enter the body and was contained in the fat, organs, urine and feces of dogs. Laboratory tests have shown that with long term exposure at low doses, fipronil has the potential for nervous system and thyroid toxicity, thyroid cancer, altered thyroid hormone levels, liver toxicity, kidney damage, convulsions, whining, barking, crying, loss of appetite, locomotor difficulty, reduced fertility, fetus mortality, smaller offspring, loss of hair at or beyond the point of application, moist inflammation, chemical burn and itching.
Read the whole article on page 24 here: http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/2012/May2012.pdf
A lot of breeders and owners do not feed "Puppy" food. They feed kibbles that have been "approved for all life stages"
AND that have the correct Calcium/Phos levels and not high in Ash. If this might be a consideration for you, you can purchase smaller bags and rotate the flavors, even with the Fromm's (a great food!), which will keep the dogs interest. Example: Lamb for a day or two, then beef, then fish. Kibble's similar to Fromm's, like Acana and Orijen were made to rotate and the dog gets the nutritional benefit of different proteins!
If the above is not a consideration for you, I would go with the Acana or Orijen which are made by the same company, Champion. Note that Orijen can give some dogs loose stool. The "quality" of the ingredients of the other kibbles mentioned have been suspect in the past.
Always transition with small amounts of new food mixed with old, taking a week or two to change. If stool get loose, go back to previous amount fed (where stool was solid) and hold at that amount for a few days until his gut gets use to it. Then increase again. This is called "bowel tolerance".
I would also suggest to add one of the following Human Grade ProBiotics.
About 70% of the immune system lies in the gut, so it is very important to keep it healthy by adding the "good" bacteria!
Sunday Sundae (Digestive Enzyme & Pro-Biotic Combo): Sunday-Sundae-12oz
Gut Sense (ProBiotic): http://dr-dobias-natural-healing-usa...ducts/gutsense
The above companies make other "Whole Food" "Human Ingredient" supplements to add to the dogs food which you may want to consider.
Raw Goats Milk is very healthy. Or some Raw Keifer purchased from a local health food store. Dogs love these items and they are great for digestion and probiotics!
You could add a small amount of Raw ground meat to the food.
Put 1/8th or 1/4th cup of raw beef, turkey or chicken into the bowl. Add enough warm water to make a "soup". Then add the kibble, stir well and let set for 10 minutes (as ausdland suggested). The aroma will peak the dogs interest while she waits for it!
Using different raw ground meat is very easy and will give your dog nutrients from "real" food that hasn't been extruded into kibble, AND, you won't have to cook!
Hey thanks for all the detailed info! I think adding in probiotic is a great idea. I am reluctant to go with raw meat tho, I am worried about her getting sick from those meat. (Being born in China, I have a deep suspicion of the quality of our food lol.) She does use flea/tick control, but since winter is coming and we are in canada, I think I will stop using it in Nov anyway. Let's see if her food problem gets better without those products
Anyway, thanks a lot and sorry for not getting back eariler.
When dogs refuse to eat to the point they are too thin and/or are losing weight, I've learned over the years that we should investigate the total health. Have you run blood work recently, and was anything "off" in it?
I've encountered the behavior you describe many times, and I've not yet had one that did that without something else going on -- sometimes GI related, other times totally unrelated. It's often very, very subtle. It may take a remarkably good vet to figure out sometimes. We just had one in rescue doing this thing with not eating more than a small amount and dropping weight in her foster home -- after lots of dead ends, the vet figured out something unusual was going on with this dog's liver, and that was the clue about what was really going on...once we dealt with the illness, the appetite returned. She had just felt lousy because of the low-grade illness, which had no other symptoms. In another dog it was chronic respiratory problem that causing loss of appetite. Another one had a thyroid issue that needed correcting. In one of my personal dogs, it was an undiagnosed food allergy (the kibble made him feel sick, so he didn't want it).
My point is not to suggest any of these specific things are wrong with your dog, but to suggest you have a conversation with your vet about digging deeper. When a dog doesn't eat consistently to the point that it's losing weight and/or looking starved, it's potentially sick -- and this loss of appetite might be the only outward symptom you get of early illness. My earnest advice is to look beyond kibble brands and focus with your vet on the whole dog.
This is so funny, you seemed to predict that my dog is gonna have diarrhea, and yeah she does not have ANY other symptom. She is playful, not feverish, sleep well, not whining, and just a normal hyperactive puppy. Anyway, lets see if her fecal test is gonna tell me something. The vest says it is most likely caused by bateria so she gave me antibiotics to feed her, tho she still has diarrhea today, but maybe I should wait longer for the medicine take effect.
Thanks for your info, haha I will definitely keep getting her checked if at least her diarrhea does not stop. I am just glad I got the pet insurance so I don't have second thoughts of going to the vet.