it kills me seeing her that hungry all the time and she eats about everything! Food, grass, dirt, pieces of log, my fingers... People likes her a lot but sometimes some people ask me if i'm feeding her cause she looks skinny.
The vet says she's a little underweight but that was good for growing puppies.
OK so no one liked my answer but look at what you said, quoted above. And your vet said she's a little underweight, and people are noticing she looks skinny.
I mean, heeeeelllllllooooo there is clearly a problem here!
It doesn't have to be all or nothing...you don't have to go from 1 extreme to the other. You don't want to let her eat freely, ok fine, then don't do that. (My puppy DOES stop when she's full...she walks away...but maybe she's unusual?) But you CAN feed her 1 more meal...feed her 3 times instead of 2...just to make up the gap. She is growing...she's not going to balloon out if you let her eat 3 times per day for a month or so, until she fills out a bit and feels satisfied.
I agree that we shouldn't follow the growth charts. Why, then, are people who are saying not to follow the growth charts, also saying to precisely follow the feeding charts? Do you see the contradiction here?
I'm not suggesting that you let her eat constantly and get fat. You expressed some concerns. Clearly, if she was doing totally fine, you wouldn't have those concerns. What I am suggesting is that you loosen up a bit on the rigid feeding schedule and let her eat a bit more.
I wouldn't want to be hungry all the time and I wouldn't want to impose that on my puppy, based on some rigid feeding schedule. Dogs overeat when they're given dead food that lacks nutrients. You're feeding her raw so she shouldn't have that problem.
If you're still concerned about her eating too much, then switch to 3 times per day just temporarily, for a month or 2, then switch back to 2 once she seems less frantic.
Key word here being frantic
...Sure, puppies like to eat, but they shouldn't seem frantic
to get more food. If she seems frantic, then that is a sign she is starving for something
...either more calories or some missing nutrient.
As for the 'prey' diet consisting of only meat, that is controversial. Wolves eat the contents of their prey's stomachs, so they do indeed get fruits and veggies.
Also, get this: the dog holding the Guinness world record for long life is - gasp
- a vegetarian!
Before everyone jumps on me for that, let me say that I do NOT believe in making dogs total vegetarians. They are clearly carnivores. There is no mistaking those teeth! But the FACT is that vegetarian dogs DO live longer. So maybe there is a happy middle? Like, for example, letting her have some avocado for extra nutrients, healthy fats and calories? I'm just suggesting that it might not be as black-and-white as the diet gurus want us to believe. It might be useful to question what we've been taught.
I'm feeding my puppy half grain-free puppy kibble, mixed with a raw egg or cottage cheese in the morning, adult kibble when the other dogs eat in the afternoon, and a serving of either Stella&Chewy's or Primal brand reconstituted freeze-dried raw meat (with ground raw bones, fruits and veggies) in the evening. I acknowledge that this isn't optimal. I'd much rather she be on 100% raw, and I am considering doing that, but just haven't worked it all out yet, being that I have 8 cats and 3 dogs. You are already ahead of the game since you're feeding her raw meat - that's awesome! I admire you for being able to do that. But if anything, then that means there is even less concern about her being fat...do you see any fat wolves in the wild? The dogs who get fat are the ones on cooked kibble!!
You are worried about her being too fat. This reminds me of a friend I had who was following a strict raw vegan diet while she was pregnant, and then raised her children on that diet too.
Now, for the record, I am a 'high raw' vegan and I realize I'm in the company of a lot of meat-eaters. I do NOT want to get into a debate about human diet! The point is that, even though I am myself a raw vegan, I would NEVER recommend raising a child that way! At least not until more people have done it successfully. It might be totally fine and even optimal, but because the diet is so new, it's still unknown how to do it properly for pregnant women and children. I would never experiment on my child for the sake of some ideology!
Well, my friend did. She experimented on her children and they had all sorts of problems. That is NOT to say the diet might not work, but it certainly didn't work the way she did it. I remember she kept telling me that she and her children felt hungry all the time and never satisfied. Her kids were skinny and just didn't thrive.
I told her then "Duh, something is missing. Either find out what, or give them some cooked vegetarian food, or even organic free range eggs...but don't let them be hungry! That's not good for children't brain development!"
She didn't listen to me, unfortunately. Her son lost all his teeth at age 3 and had to live without teeth until his adult teeth came in. Yes, this is an extreme case, and is NOT representative of vegetarian diets - my own son was raised 100% vegetarian - never had a bite of meat in his life - but not in an extremist way. He is now 24 and extremely strong and healthy. So this is NOT about the vegetarian diet! It's about being RIGID in ANY diet, to the point where the person loses common sense and the ability to observe what is going on with the child or dog.
Moral of the story is: You seem to notice that your puppy isn't satisfied. I am suggesting that you don't do what my friend did, and ignore the signs, in favor of rigidly following some 'expert' feeding chart.