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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 02-12-2010, 05:46 AM Thread Starter
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Help with Allergies

Damian is currently on about 80% NV RAW and 20% Orijen LB Puppy. He is CONSTANTLY scratching. I'm finding red bumps on his skin and red rashes on his rear leg pits from his biting.

I've got some medication from the vet, not helping at all. I am considering taking him off the RAW and keeping him on the Orijen to see if that fixes the issue. He is mainly on the chicken and beef RAW, but has been on all that NV offers.

It just seems to be the easiest way to tell if its the NV or not. If it ends up being the NV, I will probably try DIY RAW and see if it comes back.

Is there a downside to this? Orijen is a high quality kibble so I do not feel it will hurt him, but I want experienced opinions!

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Are you giving him salmon oil/vitamin E? Humidity in your home helps w/ scratching,too. Has he been to the vet for a skin scrape or diagnosis, or did the vet just give you the meds unseen?

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I second that. Do you have your heat on? My kids all started scratching when we put the heat on, and living in Florida the dogs here are pretty used to a high level of humidity. I know I got really dry skin myself. I started giving everyone some Fish Oil and E and that helped alot.

That said, if he's scratched himself so badly that he has bumps and rashes he may have have started a secondary staph infection or some kind of pyoderma- which also itches. If that's the case, you have to clear that up and treat the underlying cause before the itchies will go away. When Argos went through this as a puppy, we had to use an antibacterial shampoo (Chlorhexidine) and an oral antibiotic (Cephalexin) from our vet to clear it up completely. We also changed his food from Science Diet and haven't had any problems since he was 6 months old (he's 3 now).

I'm not sure how severe Damien's problem is. But it's something to keep in mind.

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It could be a few things. All of the NV recipes that I found online have flaxseed in them.... they are also not specifically one protein only. In the chicken alone you have chicken and turkey plus duck and quail eggs.

If it is one ingredient in the NV that he is allergic to, like flaxseed, then switching to just Orijen would be a great fix, however, if it is something related to a protein source, like chicken, turkey, beef, etc. then stopping the NV won't help.
Orijen has 6 protein sources (Chicken, turkey, herring, salmon, lake whitefish, and walleye). If it turns out Damian is allergic to chicken for example, the only way to know is too eliminate it from his diet, If you feed just fish for a month and no scratching and then added in chicken and he starts scratching like crazy, most likely it is the chicken. It is hard to do with a food that is composed of many different ingredients.

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Well it SEEMS like he start the constant scratching when I put him on NV. Thats just a rough guestimate though. Thats why I want to start with something simple. Also, the vet looked at his skin, as well as Cindy from TBWDC and she said its nothing bad right now, so I can just try the little things. Its not really a rash, the redness goes away after hre quits biting after awhile, and there are a couple of red bumps on his back near the hind end.
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Well keep us updated with the little guy. So the small changes you are making.... adding Salmon oil and Vitamin E? And humidity control? Just trying to determine the "attack plan". Hope it works out, but if not, let me know and I'll try to help you with the DIY raw. BTW did you get my PM I sent right before the forum switch?

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^ I don't think I got it, but I did get the email, thank you very much.

Right now he is just on the Orijen, with some salmon oil. I'll keep the thread update to see how it works.

Thanks for the help!
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