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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-18-2018, 01:06 AM
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It's all in the delivery.

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post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-18-2018, 04:18 AM Thread Starter
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Like I said, I'm not normally one to give advice out of nowhere. But that pup was hanging on the leash. Not dragging, not pulling, HANGING. Anyways. Just wish the owner would take one step ahead like hiring a professional trainer or whatever. It looked like a legitimately frustrating walk. But... Try not to hang your pup... Even for a second............
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Personally, I like to teach people to teach the dog to release to the pressure of the leash. Just like a horse releasing to the pressure of the reins. No gimmicks, not equipment.
That's why I liked the slip lead. I haven't had to slip it around her muzzle in a very long time.

But no you weren't being rude and your advice was warranted. This lady obviously doesn't know nor researched how to train her dog in the heel.

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For the record....I've never used a slip lead. That is absolutely not what I was suggesting at all.




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For the record....I've never used a slip lead. That is absolutely not what I was suggesting at all.
It's the same concept with the pressure as you were mentioning. That is all.

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No. It's not. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
You've never used one so how would you know? Lol, jk. You're obviously smarter than me then. *insert smiley face* no idea how ya'll do emojis.

Back on topic, no you weren't being rude.

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First, I have used choke collars so I fully understand what they do.

Second, I'm working so I'm not going to sit here and spend my Sunday arguing online. I'm sure I'm not smarter than anyone else. Thanks for the snark. I appreciate it. "insert whatever face you want here" What is up with all the online nastiness this weekend.....

For anyone reading this thread, just know that using a slip lead is not the same as what I was referring too. It's not the same concept. If anyone would like to know, please feel free to PM me.

Third, I'm not the OP and I'm fully aware that I'm usually rude. Whether I mean to be is situational.
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so I was in a local petsmart at the cash out with a bag of kitty litter .

what a sahmozzle --- "class" had just been let out and the patrons were heading
to the exit.

I saw very little evidence of any one, any single one, having learned anything or applying
any new knowledge, perfecting any skill.

there were your usual nails dug in - leaning into the colour - pulling like a draught animal -
owner ??? different zone .

a man who admittedly had a difficult breed for training had his dog on two legs jumping
to get close to the a dog in arms of someone else. Meanwhile the the owner was shouting
SIT like some mad person.

the customers immediately in front of me were being advised by the cashier that if they
had a power pulling dog instead of the dog pulling in to and "choking" for air , accompanied
by sound effects - they should get a body harness.

oh boy -- I did not say ONE word - nada - zip .

Folks it is NOT absolutely not the equipment . It is the relationship between the dog
and the owner .
It is about setting parameters for acceptable behavioiur .
TRAINING for , rewarding a coorect response , extinguishing an unwanted response,
going back and getting and rewarding what you want.

If your equipment fails do you have control?

I held a training class and the first thing to go was any equipment .
The only tools the handler had was voice , posture , gesture, reward, and patience.

It was interesting .

there is more ... but hhose people worked , and they observed, and they got timing,
and they learned to shape behaviour with reward which was NOT food , bribe, or lure.

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It's the same concept with the pressure as you were mentioning. That is all.
Sometimes a slip lead used that way will generally cut off their air immediately. Some dogs will react right away to being choked like that, but maybe not ever connecting it to giving in to leash pressure.
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