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Is this ok food for allergy test?

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#1 ·
Doing an allergy test for 2 months: I feed my 8.5 year-old GS Taste of the Wild Salmon, but there are eggs in it, and I wonder if that can be an allergen. Is this an ok food? I also found "Herring Meal" dog treats (Alaska Naturals), very clean ingredients, although I wonder about tapioca starch and sweet potatoes. I could just use kibble for 2 months as treats, but thought this could be ok.

Malik has had allergies his whole life and I really want to figure out what's wrong since he may have to get Rimadyl in the future: right now he's on Temaryl-P every other day, which really helps his breathing, but not compatible with Rimadyl.

I tried in the past restricting food to 1 type, but didn't do it for 60 days. I still think he doesn't have a food allergy, that it's environment related. It's not better in the winter, so perhaps our carpeting, or the air? I haven't done the skin patch test yet, that might be next.

Anyways, doing research, so if there is a food that is better, let me know.
Any advice is appreciated!
 
#2 ·
Fall can be a bad time for allergies. If you noticed it getting worse in winter, then I would suggest a humidifier in the room that he sleeps. For the food, if he is doing well on that, it may be okay. If you interested in trying a different kind, I can recommend Solid Gold.
 
#3 ·
Last year my then almost 1 yr. old had infected anal glands, eyes, and also very bad ears. He got better once the snow fell but I didn't think seasonal allergies could affect him so badly on their own without also affecting his skin, or at least his paws. It didn't make sense to me, since other dogs seem to be so itchy when they have allergies.

I thought maybe he had a food intolerance as well, and the combination just made things worse. I switched him off the kibble with chicken in it to a fish based. (Fromm LBP to Orijen 6 fish) I also started him on raw bee pollen (locally sourced) mid-summer. This fall he hasn't shown any signs of allergies, yay.

He also gets a raw egg every day, so IDK if he does actually have a chicken intolerance, lol. Or if the fresh raw egg is different from the processed chicken in kibble? Or if this year isn't as bad, allergy-wise? Good luck figuring this out. I know how frustrating the guessing game is, and how discouraging it is to see our dogs unhealthy.
 
#5 ·
Here are some specifics of the Nutri Scan test created by Dr. Jean Dodds, researcher for decades on vaccinations and food intolerance. Well worth the cost!;)



NutriScan
This test measures antibodies to certain foods in dog saliva. High antibody levels indicate that the dog has a food sensitivity and intolerance to that food or foods. Food intolerance or sensitivity is actually quite common whereas food allergy is rare. In fact, food intolerance is the third most common sensitivity condition in dogs and often can be easily remedied with a change in diet. Dr. Jean Dodds, NutriScan tests for the twenty most commonly ingested foods by dogs to provide you with specific results as to your dog's food intolerances or sensitivities. Since it is a salivary test, you have the convenience to complete the test at home or at your veterinarian’s office. Best of all, you can have the results in approximately two weeks to help you put your dog on the right diet.
Remember, NutriScan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.”


NutriScan is split into two test panels, so you can order one or both. I’d order both.
Panel1: Beef, Corn, Wheat, Soy, Cow’s Milk, Lamb, Venison/Deer, Chicken, Turkey, White Fish.
Panel 2: Chicken Eggs, Barley, Millet, Oatmeal, Salmon, Rabbit, Rice, Quinoa, Potatoes, Peanuts/Peanut Butter.
130 for one panel (10 antigens), $250 for two panels (20 antigens). Vet Allergy test cost about $500 for 20 antigens. Check this page for test differences: http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/nutriscan-vs-skin-patchskin-prick-testing.html

Q. How does this test differ from other food “allergy” tests on serum or feces ?
A. Food allergy tests measure antibodies to IgG and IgE in serum or feces. These are typically more acute allergic reactions to foods, whereas NutriScan measures IgA and IgM antibodies on the bowel’s mucosal surface, and thus more directly correlates to symptoms of bowel (GI tract) disease. [FONT=&quot]http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/faqs.htmlhttp://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/faqs.html[/FONT]

“NutriScan is a patented novel saliva test for canine food sensitivity and intolerance.” http://hemopet.org/

“This test measures antibodies to certain foods in dog saliva. High antibody levels indicate that the dog has a food sensitivity and intolerance to that food or foods.”

“Food intolerance or sensitivity is actually quite common whereas food allergy is rare. In fact, food intolerance is the third most common sensitivity condition in dogs and often can be easily remedied with a change in diet. For years, though, the difficulty lay in figuring out what foods were problematic – until now. Nutri-Scan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.” http://www.hemopet.org/nutriscan.html


“In contrast to food allergies, food sensitivity and intolerance is more common and can be a long term reaction.” http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference.html

For the first time in veterinary history, pets can be diagnosed and treated for food sensitivities on an individual basis. We consider the dog’s age, breed, and size in all of our diagnostic technology. Not all dogs are metabolically and genetically alike and our technology provides for individualized care.” http://nutriscan.org/images/stories/Press_Release_Nutrigenomics.pdf

Nutri-Scan vs Food Elimination Trials: http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/nutriscan-vs-food-elimination-trials.html


Advantages: http://nutriscan.org/images/stories/NutriScan_ADVANTAGE.pdf


Site showing results from testing: Does the Nutriscan Kit to Solve Dog Food Allergies Work? - Fidose


I personally asked Dr. Dodds how her test was different from Immuneiq which appears to be cheaper and tests more items:
Per Dr. Dodds: “To my knowledge, it (Immuneiq) certainly has not been validated clinically or scientifically for food allergens. There is no other scientifically validated method of detecting food sensitivity and intolerance except for our patented Nutriscan test (now patented worldwide, and for dogs, cats & horses in USA; cats & horses pending overseas). “

Hope this helps and good luck in your search!
Moms :)
 
#7 ·
I personally asked Dr. Dodds how her test was different from Immuneiq which appears to be cheaper and tests more items:
Per Dr. Dodds: “To my knowledge, it (Immuneiq) certainly has not been validated clinically or scientifically for food allergens. There is no other scientifically validated method of detecting food sensitivity and intolerance except for our patented Nutriscan test (now patented worldwide, and for dogs, cats & horses in USA; cats & horses pending overseas). “

Hope this helps and good luck in your search!
Moms :)
Hey Mom's!:)

Not to challenge this, but to ad to it re: immune IQ...the immune IQ test takes a hair sample too (have a link, but going on memory as of right now...have to go walk the doggie...can be googled)...hair sample tests for toxins and trace mineral toxicity or deficiency/imbalance (i.e, if deficient in zinc or zinc/copper imbalance)...however cannot remember the specifics at this time...I think it's worth doing both.
 
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