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Does anyone feed this food? I am considering switching Sasha over to this from TOTW after I get an e-mail back from the manufacturer as to whether or not the fish they use is purchased free of ethoxyquin?

I'm just trying to get away from a food made by diamond, but is still sold locally. Another food I'm considering is Blue Buffalo, but I'm not overly impressed by it. It looks like a decent food, but for some reason I'm just not really in love with it.

If anyone else has any suggestions feel free. I can't feed Orijen because I can't afford it and the nearest place for me to buy it is at least an hour away. I also can't feed raw because I lack a deep freezer and space for a deep freezer.

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I feed it to my girls (I usually rotate through the flavors). They like it, and do well on it.

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Highly recommend the food.....I have used it.
I would use it exclusively if it were a little more cost effective for me. (multiple dogs).
*However;....it can be a little rich for some dogs.*

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I feed it to my girls (I usually rotate through the flavors). They like it, and do well on it.
I didn't see different flavor options. Maybe I'm blind.

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Highly recommend the food.....I have used it.
I would use it exclusively if it were a little more cost effective for me. (multiple dogs).
*However;....it can be a little rich for some dogs.*
You've never had any problems having dogs on it, as far as getting cancer or anything like that. I ask because that chemical that they don't specify whether or not is present in their fish is thought to be a carcinogen.

Also, do you like the primitive natural better than their other food types?

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I did contact the company because I was looking at their products, and for the Primitive Natural, the Ash is very high at 12% Calcium is 2.45% and Phosphorus 1.5 %--the Great Plains and Coastal Catch are more moderate but I don't know ash for therm.

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I liked the Primitive Natural best.....I thought that it had the highest calories.....since my dogs are pretty active, we need the extra calories for many of the dogs.....but that's the only reason.

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I did contact the company because I was looking at their products, and for the Primitive Natural, the Ash is very high at 12% Calcium is 2.45% and Phosphorus 1.5 %--the Great Plains and Coastal Catch are more moderate but I don't know ash for therm.
Thank you. Upon first glance I don't really like that ash content, but I also don't know what the side effects of an ash content that high are, if there are any. I will have to look into this a bit more.

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I don't know either. I do know ash can be hard on the kidneys and is a sign of more bone in the meal compared to meat. But how much is too much, I don't honestly know. The other foods are about 1.5% calcium and 1% phosphorus so I assume the ash would be comparably lower. BUt TOTW was only about 9% ash I think...........

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Midwestern Pet Foods make Primitive Natural and that company runs one of the best operations around.

I would however disagree that food is a high calorie by todays standards.

3800 cal per KG is pretty average. Native Level 3 is 4400 cal per KG and half the price.

OP, you can save yourself a boat load of money using a conventional 30/20 type food that every feed store in Iowa carries. One that comes to mind is Native Level 3 @ $1lb in 40lb bags.

But.... Primitive Natural is a fine food and I would probably pick that food over Orijen. The other GF's from Earthborn are good as well as ones from Nutrisource.

I still would look for a conventional 30/20 type.

As far as Ash goes it all depends on the age of the dog and how much work it gets. Working dogs drink a lot more than house dogs and so Ash is less of a fear. Older dogs shouldn't be eating such a rich food anyway.

If you want a low-ash high protein high fat food then try Loyall Professional 31/20. The Ash is 5.5% I believe which is astonishing for a food that costs $.75lb.

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Midwestern Pet Foods make Primitive Natural and that company runs one of the best operations around.

I would however disagree that food is a high calorie by todays standards.

3800 cal per KG is pretty average. Native Level 3 is 4400 cal per KG and half the price.

OP, you can save yourself a boat load of money using a conventional 30/20 type food that every feed store in Iowa carries. One that comes to mind is Native Level 3 @ $1lb in 40lb bags.

But.... Primitive Natural is a fine food and I would probably pick that food over Orijen. The other GF's from Earthborn are good as well as ones from Nutrisource.

I still would look for a conventional 30/20 type.

As far as Ash goes it all depends on the age of the dog and how much work it gets. Working dogs drink a lot more than house dogs and so Ash is less of a fear. Older dogs shouldn't be eating such a rich food anyway.

If you want a low-ash high protein high fat food then try Loyall Professional 31/20. The Ash is 5.5% I believe which is astonishing for a food that costs $.75lb.
I am not familiar with this 30/20 food that you're speaking of. What is this ratio?

I looked up the ingredients in that Native Level 3 and it seems to be very low on meat and very high on grains, which I'm not really a fan of. That Loyall professional doesn't really appear to have hardly any meat at all, and is once again mostly grain, so I'm wondering why you recommend that over a food with more meat and less/no grains. I would say $.75lb is pretty high for a food that doesn't have much nutritional value.

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