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Yet again, another encounter with that WGSD... This one not good.

To those that have been following the various encounters, I've had yet, another encounter with the WGSD that got Kira as a young pup.

This time, the story is much different than the previous one

Here's the other link to the previous encounter:

https://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-3-mths-2.html

In that case, Kira was with me, and just turned and walked away.

Heres what happened:

I live on waterfront property. For about 5 miles on either side of me, there are 4 or 5 small state-owned parks, with trails and some even have dog runs.

Yesterday, my wife and I took a stroll on one of the nature trails. We had Kira ON LEASH, and were just enjoying some quality time together.

At one point, I strayed away to see what was over some hill, and my wife continued walking with Kira in a different direction.

A few minutes later, I hear my wife screaming, and Kira barking fiercely. I can hear the fear in her voice. I come running over the hill, and I see Kira in front of my wife lunging and barking at the WHITE GERMAN SHEPHERD! The WGSD had come running over, and started barking and was literally circling my wife and Kira. Hackles were up on both dogs. Kira was livid. My wife was frozen, and scared out of her wits. She did not know what to do, and was visibly shaken. I get to them, and get between everybody, when the owner finally comes running over.
The guy had a smile on his face!!!!

He grabbed his dog.

I won't get into what was said, but I need to do something about the fact that he's endangering the safety of my family, and my dog. We keep crossing paths in the same areas. If his dog is leashed, no problem..
This was NOT and off leash park. He was clearly breaking the law.
I spoke to the local park police, and they told me, the police would have to catch him. All they could do, was summons him.... If they caught him.

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well I am not sure where my reply just went...ugh...so I'll retype it again.

Carry a camera with you at all times. Try to photograph the dog AND the owner, or, even better, video it. You are on public property so you can do this. If your camera has a date stamp (not just in EXIF data) make sure that is on as well. Report the dog EVERY SINGLE TIME you have an encounter. That way if anything does happen (and of course I hope that it will not) you will have a record of each prior encounter. In my state, the general public is allowed a copy of the first page of each incident report. I'm not sure what it is in your state, but ASK. And if you have NOT made a formal complaint yet, do so, and make sure to mention the past incidents. Good luck.

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I know others have had similar experiences. Can you contact them - maybe collectively go to the authorities?

I agree with getting pictures. I would also check the laws and carry whatever is legal to protect yourself. At the very least the dog may thing twice if it gets a big face full of bear spray.

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remember too, that whatever you spray the dog with you will likely get a face full of as well (depending on what you use, spray vs foam, and how the wind is blowing). Not to deter you, because I do recommend protecting yourself! But just an FYI so you aren't taken by surprise if it does happen.

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Did you ask the officer what was legal to use in defense of your family and dog from an off leash aggressive dog who has previously injured your dog?

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Conspiracy theory here....

I wonder if the owner is setting this up? Some like to see their dog fight, maybe he wants to see how well his would do in one. Considering Kira is still really a pup, I'm stretching that, but...

Until you have protection - mace, bear spray AND a bat-like stick, don't walk the trails. Your wife has to understand she may have to step in and use one instead of freezing up.

Get Kira back out today, not the trails, but socializing. I would try to avoid letting her get into the puppy play she has been doing recently for a few days until her hormone/adrenaline levels settle down.
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Did you ask the officer what was legal to use in defense of your family and dog from an off leash aggressive dog who has previously injured your dog?
I did mention batting the dog down, and his response was that the owner needs to be dealt with, not the dog.

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Conspiracy theory here....

I wonder if the owner is setting this up? Some like to see their dog fight, maybe he wants to see how well his would do in one. Considering Kira is still really a pup, I'm stretching that, but...

Until you have protection - mace, bear spray AND a bat-like stick, don't walk the trails. Your wife has to understand she may have to step in and use one instead of freezing up.

Get Kira back out today, not the trails, but socializing. I would try to avoid letting her get into the puppy play she has been doing recently for a few days until her hormone/adrenaline levels settle down.
Kira's fine. We ended up spending the rest of the day out with her.
About 2 hours later, we went to my daughter's girl scout meeting, and Kira sat, while all the girls petted her, and hugged her, etc...

Then about 7 pm, we met with her Golden friend, and they played for about half hour.

Kira's gotten very resilient. Not much rattles her these days. Unless you want to call her reaction rattling, of course. I'll dismiss her action as nothing more than feeding off my wife's fear and emotion. I don't get that reaction when I'm with her. I wish I could have videod what took place. It was weird. That dog was circling hacks up and barking as if he wanted to get to my wife, and not Kira. Kira was circling with it, as if to create a perimeter around my wife.

If that dog wanted Kira, he could have gotten her.

Do I think it's a conspiracy? No, I don't. The area I live in has a high concentration of dogs, and park trails. It's very common to see the same dogs and owners throughout the area.

The irony of all this?...... After everything was said and done, we all walked away. We must have been a couple hundred feet away, and I turn and see his dog off the leash again.

The owner of this dog apparently has no regard whatsoever.

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I did mention batting the dog down, and his response was that the owner needs to be dealt with, not the dog.

The owner of this dog apparently has no regard whatsoever.

I would have nicely asked him to do his job and deal with the owner then I would start taking pictures and video anytime that you see this dog and owner out and about without a leash. The only way to protect your family/dog would be not to walk your dog ever again and that is not right nor fair

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Did the police at least talk to the guy to remind him of the leash law and the penalty if he is caught not following it?
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I did mention batting the dog down, and his response was that the owner needs to be dealt with, not the dog.


That is all good and well but if the dog actually does attack I would think you have every right to protect yourself, your wife, your dog.

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