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Raising two puppies ASKING

Hello Everyone! I have with me my two gsd puppies: a male & a female.
the female is 2 week full older than the male. They have the same sire different dam. I have three gsd all in all: two pups together with Maggie a 1 y.o. female GSD who's very loving and has good temperament.

My question is how will i raise them properly? Considering I have Maggie also.
have you guys raised two puppies before?
What did you guys do in order to raise them well?

I researched and read a lot abut this and I'd really appreciate it if you guys share me some knowledge. Thank You

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Re: Raising two puppies ASKING

humm... If you'd asked the question before getting two I would have written it's better not to. That said you have to deal with the situation as it stands in the best way.

The most important thing is to force seperate time between the dogs. Though it's easier to house all 3 in one space, you create a pack, not three dogs individually bonded to you. Easiest way to do this is to crate train them, and place the crates in separate areas out of sight of the others. Provide individual training and play time with each dog without the other dogs near by. (this goes for the older dog too). They can have play time together, but be certain that they're bonded to you individually. If there's two humans in the house make one your pup, the other theirs as much as possible.

It's a LOT more work than getting one puppy at a time... but that's what you've bitten off. Even having multiple dogs is an extra commitment and takes more time and work to do well. We've had 5 dogs, and just added a baby baby (now 10 weeks). Ikon has time with the gang, but also has seperate time without the other dogs around. We rotate who gets to "go for a ride" and everyone stands @ the door waiting and hoping it's their turn.

DEFINITELY make training times completely separate!! I made the mistake in my novice days of taking two littermates I kept to training class together. Even with separate handlers they were a challenge.

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Re: Raising two puppies ASKING

You got a lot of youngin's for someone new to the breed.

It really depends somewhat on what you want to do with them.

Your yearling still needs socialization and training.

The babies need a lot more.

Generally, socialization is done individually. This is important because a puppy may feel a whole lot more confident with his buddy than he does by himself so his behavior will be totally different.

Each of your dogs need to see a new person or place every day. Lots of people, lots of places, lots of things. A loaded shopping cart, a wheel chair with a person, a guy on crutches, a bus, a rollerblader. Doing this on an individual basis is daunting, but really it is what you need to do heavily for the next couple of months. Then you can back down a little bit with the older dog, and maybe go to a couple days of week with the pups.

I would strongly suggest that you enroll all three dogs in three separate sets of training classes, preferrably and separate days. Plan on doing this through a puppy class, basic class, advanced class, CGC class, one set of six to eight classes after another with all three dogs for several months. Again it depends on what you want to do with your dogs. This is a minimum for a dog that you can walk anywhere, take to the pet store, take to the vet, etc.

You can leave the male and female pup play together, etc., until the female is spayed or goes into heat if you are not planning on schutzhund or police training. I think they prefer to have the dog's focus completely, and raising two pups together can make the puppies a little more bonded with each other than they like. I have not found that to be the case myself, but I do not train for schutzhund or police training.

If there is any way that you can return a puppy to one of the breeders, I would suggest strongly that you consider it. In all fairness, you can provide a lot more individual attention to one pup than two. I have raised pups together, I do not suggest it though. You have to pretty much have your LIFE revolve around the dogs, which I do.

Good luck with your youngsters. Sometimes the hardest things to do are the right things to do.

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I have 2 puppies and it's not easy. I also have 2 older dogs. A 2 1/2 year old male, and a 1 1/2 year old female.

I crate all my dogs. My puppies have not been out loose together since they were 10 weeks. Usually one outing a day I let one puppy out with one big dog. I do not like to let the puppies out with both big dogs because when they play it can get rough and I don't like for the puppy to get caught in the middle. I don't like to let my dogs really play together until I have enough control to call the dog away from it's play and back to me.

I also found that having 2 puppies also made potty training more difficult because I have found that they wake each other up...So if one has to go out, they both have to go out, and in the time it takes me to get the one out, the other may have potentially had an accident.

Could I have taken them both out together? Possibly. But by week 10 my 2 puppies were like watching a UFC match. Constant wrestling and rough playing, making each other squeal...made it very difficult to maintain control. They would also forget about going to the bathroom because they were so eager to play with each other.

At least once a week each puppy gets it's own outing somewhere by itself. Training is always done separately. I feel like doing 2 puppies is VERY time consuming...I don't think I would do it again, and we went into this knowing we wouldn't keep both puppies to adulthood as we were picking out the best prospect for work.

I think back to what I was doing with my first dog when he was a puppy and I KNOW I spent a lot more time bonding with him and working with him, and a lot less on bathroom breaks and crowd control like I do now...If you can focus on one dog your quality of time is usually much better.

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Re: Raising two puppies ASKING

Most responsible breeders won't even sell 2 puppies, or even one, if there is another young pup in the house. Can be so hard for the puppy as well as the owner. SO much time if you have anything else going on in your life (and I know I do).

Some of the things to be aware of are on these sites:

http://leerburg.com/2dogs.htm

http://www.uvhs.org/behavioral_docs/double_trouble.pdf

http://www.caninedevelopment.com/Sibling.htm




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Re: Raising two puppies ASKING

Yes all of you were right. i did separate them on both sides of the house. i read a lot and take them out at different times. it's hard but it really can make me happy having them around with my older dog. i'll definitely do what you guys have told me.

about the seller / breeder he sent the female as a bonus or free. i decided to give the female to my mom but i dont think she can handle raising big gsd's. i'll stick to the infos on what you guys have said.

i'll post the pics soon! wish me luck

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Quote:about the seller / breeder he sent the female as a bonus or free.
???

If my breeder did that to me, I would NOT appreciate it or look at it as a favor. I'm raising a GSD pup right now and she's 5 months old, she's the 4th puppy I raised.

I would NEVER raise 2 puppies at the same time, knowing I wouldn't be doing near as good of a job with the 2 (kind of cheating them actually) as I could do with the 1.




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Seriously? A two-for-one? Wow.


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Ok...the curiosity is killing me.......why did this breeder send a bonus pup?

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Re: Raising two puppies ASKING

Hello everyone! sorry for the late rep.
anyways, the breeder send the female as free because of his dam accidentally got pregnant to his gsd stud he said. i dont know what happened. but otherwise, it's all good to me because the two pup share the same sire but different mother which is all came from a good imported line.
im planning to give the female pup to my mom. she's a dog lover but never had a gsd before.

IT IS very hard training them both. you have to deal with a lot of things multiplied by two!

anyways, rest assured that both pups will be properly socialized and healthy dogs.

I named them:
* Marley ( the male ) from the movie Marley & Me
* Marseille ( 2nd City of France )

i'd like to post some pictures soon. thanks for the guidelines guys!

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