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Never seen this color??

Hi everyone! I just joined here actually, and hoping for some opinions on my first GSD. He's very interesting as he is all gold and lacks a saddle but has the mask going on. I got him from a lady who was his second home, she was giving him away as he was harassing their elderly cats, and was marking constantly in their house. I wasn't looking for another dog at the time but I came across him and had to scoop him up, I'd always wanted a shepherd but never had the opportunity. Long story short her husband had enough of the dog and wanted him out. She had gotten him from her good friend who had him from a baby and got him from someone, I guess a breeder, in Tucson AZ. I have a lot of details on his background thankfully, and I have had him since November. He's never given me any problems, but as I am familiar with working dogs I give him a job and he is doing agility for fun as extra exercise. He's a very good boy. Just super curious on where his color came and what's going on lol a lot of comments I get is "is he a Mal?" and "what kind of dog is he?" Does he really not look like a GSD? Sometimes he really confuses everyone. please comment away! Oh one last thing that could help contribute, the previous owner had him shaved completely down to his skin from what I saw in previous pictures before I got him. It infuriated me, and thankfully his undercoat is grown out and some topcoat. Even though it's December and he has no coat insulation... But with that being said, please drop your opinions. Attached I have a standing side view, a walk of both sides, and a trot.
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There have been a couple of posts in the past from people with golden shepherds.It happens!As his fur grows back he may be more of a light sable with dark banding on the guard hairs.Time will tell.Enjoy him!

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It's rare.

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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-13-2017, 08:52 PM
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His shape looks GSD but I wonder if he is part yellow Lab or Golden Retriever. He is a very interesting looking dog.
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Definitely looks GSD to me. Would love to see pictures, when his hair grows out.

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From the bit of color on his tail and the withers, I'd say he is a sable. A light/cream color undercoat is normal for sables, and the undercoat always grows in before the top coat does.

From the times that my dog had some areas shaved for stitches, for example, it took about six months for his top coat to grow in.

Sables are not rare, as it is THE dominant color in GSDs, but most people breed for black and tan dogs, so sables are not very common.

Poor baby that he has been handed around so much, at least he looks like he finally found a good home.

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From the bit of color on his tail and the withers, I'd say he is a sable. A light/cream color undercoat is normal for sables, and the undercoat always grows in before the top coat does.

From the times that my dog had some areas shaved for stitches, for example, it took about six months for his top coat to grow in.

Sables are not rare, as it is THE dominant color in GSDs, but most people breed for black and tan dogs, so sables are not very common.

Poor baby that he has been handed around so much, at least he looks like he finally found a good home.
Can Black and Tans have the cream under coat as well?
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Hmmm I am guessing that being shaved down is playing a big role in his strange color. Right now all you are seeing is undercoat. His outer coat may not come back for a while yet, may be patchy, or may never return. Keeping him brushed and stripping out the under coat may help along with a good diet. Hopefully it will come back with time. May need to keep a closer eye on him in the cold and heat since he lack the insulating out coat for the cold, and in the summer his undercoat is going to absorb the heat of the sun making him more prone to over heating.
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That's a fine looking dog; he looks all gsd to me, and very dignified too.
I hope we get to see pics in six months when his coat grows out.
Can't wrap my head around why anyone would shave a gsd, but I'll bet they'll never tell you.
Congrats, and your dog thanks you for his new home.
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Can Black and Tans have the cream under coat as well?
Sorta - the undercoat under the black saddle areas will be black. Even the skin color will be black. The undercoat under the tan areas will be tan.

Many of the WGSL develop a substantial bitch line along the nape, withers and shoulder areas that looks like sable coloring, complete with lighter undercoat. But that is due to a loss of pigmentation, and is not the basic undercoat color.

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