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Diesel - Working? Show? Critique

Hey everyone, I am so curious about others opinions on Diesel (not that they matter I love him either way) I had someone tell me he is working lines (Why?) One trainer told me his extensively long tail is something that is good for herding to help keep balance and switch directions quickly... (I think it looks like a Puma tail but whatever) Since I dont know his breeding please tell me what you think. I dont have anyone to help me stack so apologies best I can do is his natural stack. Mind you he is still slightly underweight probably needs another 10-15lbs to get his full muscle mass so his hips are still slightly thin (IMO) Guessing his age is between 1-2yrs old. For a size comparison he is about 92-95lbs right now and 34 inches at the shoulder if that matters (aka big ol' boy!)

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How about now? I dont think my resizing worked on them originally



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He doesn't have that typical cookie cutter show line look, so it's possible he's from working lines. Without a pedigree, it's just a guess though. Never heard the comment about the tail, but I'm sure that's not an indicator if the dog is working lines.

34" is one huge german shepherd. Is that being measured at his withers to the ground? I don't think I've ever seen one that big in person.

He also looks like he's lacking muscle in his rear legs. He looks to be in ok shape weight-wise. Just looks to be lacking muscle tone, but it could be the age.
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34" is one huge german shepherd. Is that being measured at his withers to the ground? I don't think I've ever seen one that big in person.

He also looks like he's lacking muscle in his rear legs. He looks to be in ok shape weight-wise. Just looks to be lacking muscle tone, but it could be the age.
He is huge and yes that is to his withers from the ground at his paw, he is as big as my friends grate dane. He is lacking a ton of muscle in his hind end, still gaining weight, he weighed 71lbs when he arrived to me just over 2 months ago, been a really slow go. Gradually building up his exercise to build tone and muscle paired with grain free kibble and raw diet. Trying to get him there, we went from 6 small meals a day now down to 3 decent size meals a day.

Here is what we came from weight wise which also shows how frickin huge he is a little better this is my home office

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He appears neither show or sport lines.....very similar looking to dogs which predates WGSL or Sport dogs of today. Enjoy your dog!
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He is a big boy. He has a very similar look to one of my old shepherds. She was kind of a hodgepodge of lines. Her father was West German Showline X American Showline cross and her mother was just old american pet lines. She had the same coloring and was very large. As a female I think she was around 90lbs at her prime.
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He looks like the result of "poor breeding" that produces what many call american pet lines - aka BYB special. He is MASSIVE, much bigger than any working lines. Likely people throwing large german shepherds together to create more large german shepherds because everyone wants a giant german Shepherd.

That would be my guess. Handsome boy, and I meant no insult with my term "BYB special". I purchased zeke out of the newspaper before I knew better, and although I'll never repeat that mistake he is an AMAZING boy and I love him to death

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That would be my guess. Handsome boy, and I meant no insult with my term "BYB special". I purchased zeke out of the newspaper before I knew better, and although I'll never repeat that mistake he is an AMAZING boy and I love him to death

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No offense taken, I am almost certain he is a BYB product, he is a rescue so it is what it is. I am sure with his size we are destined for HD or ED. (he already creaks and cracks in his back end, which I am not certain if it is from the lack of muscle mass or what we are headed for HD/ED)

The only real reason I want to know from people who know better than I, is to help me keep him progressing. I have done so much research on both types of lines and there are some distinct differences and things to look out for in their future, what motivates them, more effective ways in training, and overall what to expect out of their temperament (in general any dog can vary from the standard obviously). I love him regardless and when I rescued him, I was looking for a pup from a good breeder but I could not let him die in that hole of a shelter his eyes spoke to me in a picture, and here I am, monster dog that had no manners or OB what so ever, that wants to eat every other dog he see's. Good or bad I am in it for the long haul even though there are certainly days I want to hide in a hole and cry
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He is very handsome.

I would not worry about lines. Treat him as an individual and work him as such. There is so much variation even in known lines that you can't put a generalization on them.

Thanks for rescuing him!!!


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