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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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Joplin von Eichenluft 6 months

Mahler is now 6 months old. Thoughts?

Lots of things I am liking, other things I am not. Feedback is always good.



So you can see his head

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 04:04 PM
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Well, I think Joplin is a great looking dog! I like his nice straight top line. His frame is light, reminds me a lot of my own dog in that area. Nice straight ears and a good friendly expression. His feet look nice to me as well. The more I look at him, the more he reminds me of my own dog. (except the top line. Yours looks better)
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You're the first person to call his frame light xD Mahler's size and weight can be very deceiving upon first glance. He weighs 60.4 lbs as of yesterday!

He does have nice feet, thank you I'd like a deeper turn of stifle and a much longer croup, but very much like his bone, head, and expression. He also has a very nice tailset

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I'll give it a go- I haven't done this in a while. Mostly, I wanted to comment because I really like the dog's front! Seems nicely balanced. Nice feet, nice pasterns that are at a good angle- should be great shock absorbers, nice shoulder angle. I think the humerus could be a bit longer- just a bit, but the overall shoulder angle is very good. I really like this dog's front!

The withers are flat but the top line is very nice. I think the length of loin may be just a bit long. The croup is nice- good angle and ok length though I think it could be a bit longer.

I do think the dog is lacking in secondary sex characteristics. I think the head could stand to be a bit bigger/blocker (even though I don't prefer very blocky heads).

Overall, I think he's a very nice looking dog.

[EDIT]- Maybe I missed that he's only 6 months old. Perhaps his head will fill in with age.

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Interesting thoughts I think he looks very male, myself, but he does have a headstyle that people aren't used to. His stop is not terribly deep, and I would like slightly more, but his head is what the standard calls for (wedge shaped, as opposed to square, which people are getting used to). I definitely don't want a bigger head myself (I think it tends towards a bit ridiculous right now).

I can definitely see how one would think he looked a bit more feminine due to that.

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Maybe I missed that he's only 6 months old. Perhaps his head will fill in with age.
Maybe a bit. He has his mother's head, which I don't like. I prefer the head of his half siblings. However, when we are talking aesthetics vs correctness, though Mahler's head isn't my personal aesthetic preference, it is the more correct head.

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Jackie- I looked at his pedigree, but I don't know enough to make anything of it. Is this a mix of working lines and show lines?

I felt he had a body like a working line dog. I'm not sure his hock angle, but I didn't comment on that because I don't feel educated enough about it. But overall, I thought he looked balanced like a working line, but his head seemed more ASL to me. And I know you are more of an ASL breeder (I thought). So that's why I ask... Simple curiosity, nothing else.

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Is this a mix of working lines and show lines?
Nope. 100% working lines. Bred by Molly Graf of Eichenluft.

Bandit Wolfsheim x Sabre Eichenluft. The head may seem ASL because he lacks stop (as I said, he does need more), but the breadth is there, as well as strong underjaw and muzzle. Muzzle is a tad long. I can definitely see how you get that impression.

I appreciate the critique, and you've definitely been learning. I do like to have dialogue about the critiques rather than just say "Thank you!" I think it's an important part of learning and evaluating.

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Definitely no ASL's in that pedigree.
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He's 6mos. old for cryin' out loud. His head will fill out fine. Is it the style that stops traffic? No. Never will be. But it's a nice enough head and it's a tad early to say he lacks secondary sex characteristics.
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Is it the style that stops traffic? No. Never will be. But it's a nice enough head and it's a tad early to say he lacks secondary sex characteristics.
Thank you The heads that heads that "stop traffic" are often incorrect, I've noticed. Mahler's biggest fault with his head is his lack of stop, but too many GSDs these days have square heads.

While this may be aesthetically pleasing, the GSD should have a wedged head, not a blocky square one.

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