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Second attempt... Fixed?

Ok, tried again.... fixed the back leg, now it's in line with his penis. I tried to put his other back leg not too far away from him, but then it bunched his top line and made him looked hunched over. When I pulled it back out, his top line straightened out and looked (to my untrained eyes) more correct. I also didn't have a lot of time, because of the weather changing for the worse, with getting him to get his head up and alert. He was too focus on me with the treat. (right before dinner time too... he was ready to eat)....

Anyway... How did I do this time?





I need to figure out an easier way to get his head up and alert ... maybe throw a toy? or have some one help hold a toy in front of him? Hmmm....

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The second stack is just about perfect other than his turned head. Nice! And yes, tossing a toy helps if he can remain in position.

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You may want to train him to stack in a show collar. If you are training him to show, you will want him to pull out. And you will also have to show in a something other than a prong, so it is a good idea to get them used to a different collar for the behaviors they need for showing.

If you are just interested in how his conformation is, not showing, then disregard the above comment about the prong.

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The second stack is just about perfect other than his turned head. Nice! And yes, tossing a toy helps if he can remain in position.
Thank you!

and that is something we are going to try next time... see how it goes! His stay is very nice.... but, I'm not sure if he'll stay in place completely, or if he'll move a leg or two. We'll see how that goes! Last time, how I got his head up was with out neighbor doing some work on his yard! lol! I just kept saying "who's that?!?!" "where'd he go?!?! Worked very well.... until he went inside! I may need to borrow him again!

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Just wanted to say that I think that he is a very handsome boy, I am not knowledgeable enough to do a critique on him.

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what I used to do is, put them Dodge in his stack position, and work on a good "stay", (which meant DON"T MOVE and then stand in front of him vs off to the side..will keep the head straight on to you.

Lookin really nice))))) I think I like the second one, tho they are both pretty close,,one thing I do see is one rear foot looks a tad turned out? Placement I'm sure or the pic shot..

and yep lose the prong))

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You may want to train him to stack in a show collar. If you are training him to show, you will want him to pull out. And you will also have to show in a something other than a prong, so it is a good idea to get them used to a different collar for the behaviors they need for showing.

If you are just interested in how his conformation is, not showing, then disregard the above comment about the prong.
Thank you! I do have a show collar, just don't normally put it on when we are out since it slides off a lot. We usually use it for grooming now. Though, I will try it with him next time. I don't think it'll make a difference in how he acts though... he's a really good boy! Just for looks, we'll try it out!

He pulls out on leash when I allow him... though, unless I have something/someone getting his attention, he seems to not pull out well... he waits for me to catch up. Still needs work!

I really wish I could show him, however, he's neutered.... last time I read up on the requirements, I believe I saw that he would have to be intact? Could be wrong though... never look too seriously into it.

For now, just really looking for some critiquing on his confo and definitely my stacking jobs... this dog knows way more then I do with this! lol! He stacks himself perfectly quite often... Wish I was that accurate! Though, any information, critiques, and suggestions are welcome! Never a bad thing!

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Just wanted to say that I think that he is a very handsome boy, I am not knowledgeable enough to do a critique on him.
Thank you!! He's an excellent dog! Definitely my little shadow!

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what I used to do is, put them Dodge in his stack position, and work on a good "stay", (which meant DON"T MOVE and then stand in front of him vs off to the side..will keep the head straight on to you.

Lookin really nice))))) I think I like the second one, tho they are both pretty close,,one thing I do see is one rear foot looks a tad turned out? Placement I'm sure or the pic shot..

and yep lose the prong))
Yes, definitely losing the prong next time! Lesson learned! Time to get the show collar back out! And working on that "stay means stay put"! Thank you!

He turns out his paws sometimes.... front not as much. He can be east-west in his front... but, once fixed, they don't move. The back, I sometimes fix and he moves.... need to keep a better eye on that I guess. Maybe the picture angle, maybe not... it's something common with him, so they probably were.

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In AKC you cannot show an altered dog. I think Canadian Kennel Club, is starting to have an altered class. And fun matches I think it is ok.

He looks nice. German Show line?

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Yes I would throw a toy out or have someone stand about 20-30 feet ahead of him (and slightly toward the camera) with a toy or something he likes. The placement of the anatomy is not bad but the dog doesn't look natural so it's hard to judge. The stack should look like the dog was walking along, and then stopped, alert. These are a few where I did just that, basically gave my stand-out-of-motion command and then run around snapped a picture (if he looks at me I thrown my lens cap or something so he looks forward again). The stacks themselves are not perfect placement but the dog looks pretty natural since he positioned himself.





And these are ones where the dog was placed in a stack. Not really that much different from above, no?







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