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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-14-2009, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
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This is Ruger - OFA hips, DNA DM N/N, CGC, RN. He is plush coated, but he does have a VERY full under coat. I'd like some honest opinions on him, if you would. And how much do you consider this coat to be a fault.




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Quite honestly I would consider him a long coat. There are two types of long coats, with and without an undercoat.


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What a striking boy!
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It's a long coat. My girl looks like him coatwise.

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I also would consider him a LH. He is gorgeous!!!

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Re: honest opinions

Long Coat, the coat is too long to be what people call a plush coat that isn't really a coat type designation.

Without someone standing next to him, it is hard to get an idea on how tall his is or isn't.

How much of a fault is his coat, it is a conformation fault. I am not sure you can put a scale on how much. It is like saying someone is a little PG, they either are PG or not.

He looks like he has nice bone and good feet.


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Re: honest opinions

Thanks. I was under the false impression that the plush coated dogs had a full under coat, and the long coated dogs had little to no under coat. That being said, how much would you consider it a fault for a working dog?

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Thanks Wisc.Tiger. He is 25 1/2 inches at the withers. Feet are actually a little too large, but well compact.

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Actually his feet fit his body. He is a big bodied dog with a LOT of bone. My 1/2 German showline - 1/2 working (german lines) is built quite a bit like him. His front legs and my males remind me more of war clubs than legs.

Would I bred him, a few years ago I would have said yes. But my perspective has changed some. While I like the stockie look, for the most part they are no where near as agile as some lighter smaller bodied dogs. There body can some times be a hinderance when it comes to agility and longevity. Would I own another heavy type bodied dog, sure.

I see you have had his hips done, what did they rate them as. Also this type of dog has a tendency to be front end heavy so elbow are a big concern of mine.

OK back to the actual critique, nice eye color. The bottom lip could be tighter. Ears and ear set are good.

As far as his coat being a deterent for working it doesn't matter. It only is a problem for conformation showing right now (will change in 2010).

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It's a conformation fault in the German Shepherd standard...and the standard is the same for any of the lines show or working.

If you're just interested in working, the dog could have flop ears, cow hocks, and be part whippet and still be an outstanding working dog if he put up the scores! If you're interested in breeding, well for the German Shepherd it's still a fault.

I do think he's handsome.

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