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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-27-2018, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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Reputable/Good breeder list?

I see a lot of opinions on good vs bad breeders. Would it be worth wild to have a consolidated list on the good / reputable / trusted breeders and link to their site?

Could it also be a benefit to have a 'bad' list as well?

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-27-2018, 06:07 PM
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it would be IF we could all agree on good breeders...also we could get into trouble posting a list of "bad breeders". That would be slander unless we could back it up with solid evidence.
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Members aren't necessarily aloud to say bad things or 'breeder bash' but if you ask about a particular breeder those who have dogs from them can chime in or they can message you and let you know to avoid them. If you are in search of a dog you could post your location, what you are looking for in a dog, and anything else you can think of and members can suggest breeders they know who might have a dog to fit you.
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it would be IF we could all agree on good breeders...also we could get into trouble posting a list of "bad breeders". That would be slander unless we could back it up with solid evidence.
Yeah that was kind of my idea. More of "these people took x amount of money and just ran type of thing.
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Members aren't necessarily aloud to say bad things or 'breeder bash' but if you ask about a particular breeder those who have dogs from them can chime in or they can message you and let you know to avoid them. If you are in search of a dog you could post your location, what you are looking for in a dog, and anything else you can think of and members can suggest breeders they know who might have a dog to fit you.
I did, I am looking at one breeder in particular, and posted regarding that. But this also lists my current wants/needs/expectations.
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Actually, life happens. Good breeders can be just steps away from becoming bad breeders. And if that happens, we as a site are sending folks to bad breeders.

Also, there really are not good short cuts. You as the buyer need to get on the phone and TALK to people, then you need to go and meet them if at all possible. You at least have to gauge their responsiveness, their knowledge, their ethics for yourself. This purchase is not like a car or a boat or even a house, though hopefully you have your house for 10-14 years or even more. The thing is, you are buying a bit of the breeder as well as the puppy, even if you never call them after the money changes hands. Your go-to resource for your dog's bloodline's health and temperament, ought to be be your breeder first.

This individual shouldn't be found by being one of the winners of a popularity contest on a website. The mod-squad is not commissioned to visit breeders and give ratings 1-star to 5-star. Just looking at web-sites will glean some information, BUT with just a little bit of effort, a website can look a WHOLE lot better than what is in real life. And how often should the squad visit someone's establishment/home (GSD puppies should be raised in your home)? Because, as I said, life happens.

A good breeder with half a dozen bitches, and a couple of dogs, and a husband and a few kids, could have a really good thing going in 2017. And then one of her kids could drown. Her husband can't take it and leaves. 3 dogs are returned and not found homes, and a litter is left to grow out because there just isn't the mental health to go through the process of finding homes. By 2018, you have half the people trying to manage twice as many dogs with a financial hardship, and serious emotional turmoil.

The next thing you know, someone has called AC on the people and their dogs are being removed. And this is someone everyone knew and is shocked to find this out (actually, it is totally fictitious, but it illustrates how quickly things can go from 5-star to both thumbs down). Paul Upton, did get his dogs back, but he fell behind when his son died. They should never have seized his dogs. But evenso, there are so many things that can happen that make having a list like this obsolete or even dangerous.
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Allowing members to recommend breeders and talk about breeders is one thing. If we put up a list of breeders it would look like the board is endorsing those breeders. Since we don't allow advertising on the board, endorsing some breeders and not others would be stepping over a line.
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There are already Facebook pages that list "good" breeders meeting specific criteria (health, titles, pedigrees). And ones listing bad breeders.

To allow it on this site would be a nightmare. There would be nobody to determine good vs bad. Only opinions based on.....what???
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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-23-2018, 03:04 PM
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Shame we can't post our bad experience with breeders when someone ask, seems only good comments can show or "suspected" bashing comments. How can we come to a conclusion when we get only half a story? I posted my experience with a certain breeder answering a question and my post was deleted, yet all the other post slamming the breeder by only viewing their website and not actually having dealings with this breeder remains.
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A google search WILL turn up the names of really bad breeders. I know of at least one website that does allow people to complain if they have genuinely been ripped off. Ripoff Report is another good source of bad reviews.

Still, one needs to be careful. One bad review does not a bad breeder make! Anyone who's been in business for any length of time is going to have a few dissatisfied customers, and there's the odd bad apple out there that makes a business of being a 'dissatisfied customer'!

Breeders who've been in the business awhile often have a 'do not sell' list for people like this.
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