I agree Carmen that wolf should be separate issue. I question if iceberg breeders is of much value to many in the breed today. The mindset of folks today on the breed is very similar to mindset that everyone that participates gets a trophy. ��
There are really no faults in the breed today, it just depends on what your priorities are and that justifies the breeding program. So, the breed will travel it’s merry way, and the standard will decrease in value as the mass appeal of breeding so everyone can own this breed will continue.��*♀️
this is one of the saddest posts I have seen.....albeit so REAL!
Have been going through this thread again after recommending it to quite a few people looking for puppies....and some wanting to get into IPO or other sports. So much to think about ....last year some posts I wish I had addressed.....the discussion about a book that was written 25 +/- years ago....so much has changed in training and breeding to accommodate the training - or vice versa! The comments about Maineiche breeding prior to the Fero era....those lines that Carmen and I both are carrying on into the future - but the sadness and frustration when so many in the breed do not understand the bottlenecks they are building in both bloodlines and type...the changes that are showing in not just the SL but the WL dogs....when I get told you only get one or 2 pups that can work in a litter from a WG WL breeder/judge....heck I had all 3 males and 1 female title in my K litter, and 2 others that worked but due to owners lifestyles and priorities, did not title.
I get into "discussions" all the time about a 'standard" - a blueprint of the ideal all breeders should strive to meet...and get so much hate from so many over it. The sadness I feel watching ASL dogs - the rabid mob mentality of the ASL crowd when even a small comment is made on a photo....even down to the much revered handler/judge reigning over the breed jumping on a bandwagon and verbally abusing a person with a contrary opinion.
I think this thread has much for so many to think about. Why we are drawn to the breed, what we want in our dogs and if that meets what the standard describes. The stand is the ideal, we have to strive to attain that ideal....but so may are narrowing their focus - for prey, for ball drive...for color, for heads....I had 2 dogs from different litters and lines working in a group - many LE K9 officers there - they all said dog A is a super sport dog...he will do great, but dog B?? That is not a schutzhund dog, that is a police dog....they all offered to sell him to another department for me....Dog A did do great - competed on a national level sucessfully, Dog B - well life again kept him from attaining his true potential. Yes - titled, koered, impressing all who actually SEE him....producing well with progeny in sport and LE...such an opportunity for breeders to bring in what all say is missing...maybe in other hands he would have been high profile - those who see him know what he is ....so much to offer...
What saddens me is not only the mass production by greedy people with no knowledge, but the commercial breeders making a living by producing 6, 8 and more litters a year who still appear and present their breedings as more than pet breedings....when in reality, 90% of their pups will never be able to be more than companion dogs....but - that is the market...for not only the big black and red dogs and the "rare" colors and atrocities, but now, so many want and breeders cashing in on big pretty black sable dogs....