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Old 08-06-2018, 05:09 AM Thread Starter
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Deshedder and Undercoat Rake differences?

I've been trying to look it up online but couldn't find specific answers. What's the difference between a deshedder and an undercoat rake? Deshedding and dematting, what's the difference?

I've never used an undercoat rake before. I groom my dog every other day; I deshed him, spray some dog perfume (detangler), and finish with a regular brush (and a treat of course!).

Is an undercoat rake a daily necessity for GSDs?

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Old 08-06-2018, 07:45 AM
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I would say no, not necessary. I only used the rake on long, double coats. Collies, Chows and the like. I deshed with a curved slicker. You scoop the coat backwards on a dry dog. I also use it in the tub, soaped up, brush through, gets them clean to the skin and removes a ton of hair. Then while I'm rinsing, I'm brushing, even more hair.

Matts are from dead coat that is not brushed out. They are solid clumps and on Shepherds, come out pretty easily. Shedding is more individual hairs that are loose and clog the vacuum brush....

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Old 08-06-2018, 09:20 AM
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I use the rake on the parts of my dog that have really long hair: back of the hind legs, tail, top of the rump and around her neck/shouders (mane area). I also use it on her flanks, because the pressure from her lying on those areas makes the hair mat.

I only need it on my show line girl, because her coat is longer and thicker, and does tend to mat a bit in some areas.
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:50 AM
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Undercoat rake - loosens and pulls out loose undercoat on either long coats or stock coats. (Fluffy parts of stock coats as haunches and ruff)

Deshedder - expensive little number that loosens and removes guard hairs and undercoat on stock coats (current two dogs are stock coats so no experience with this on long coats)
Mat splitter/cutter - Useful on long coats when they develop mats. Mats are clumps of hair that can form (sometimes very quickly) in a tangle of undercoat & top coat often behind ears & areas of angles in anatomy.

What works with all of these is a dusting of corn starch worked in well before grooming. Usually deshedder works without the corn starch.
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:02 AM
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Personally, I think an undercoat rake is indispensable. Nothing pulls out loose undercoat as well, except maybe a blower. I don't use it every day though. I'm not sure what you mean by a deshedder - is that like a Furminator? If so, I'm not a fan.

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Old 08-06-2018, 10:06 AM
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I have both. I prefer the deshedder when they are blowing coat as z first pass. Then the rake to work out any knots. Then I take the rake and work it backwards to pull out the undercoat and finish with a comb to pick up the loose hairs.

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Old 08-06-2018, 10:36 AM
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I use a Kong "Zoom N Groom" first to loosen the easy stuff and get a good 1st/2nd pass, then use the undercoat rake to get more undercoat out. I'd prefer leaving the top coat / guard hairs in place if they're not ready to come out, but get the loose undercoat removed, especially in summer.

Boon sees to tolerate the Zoom n Groom pretty well since it's softer and massage-ier. He only puts up with the undercoat rake, but that thing will get out a big handful of undercoat. I use it 2-3x/wk in summer.
Old 08-06-2018, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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Oh okay. Got it. I don't think I'll need to get am Undercoat Rake then. And I hope I've been grooming my boy correctly. Thanks a bunch people!
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:33 AM
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I always use a rake first and then move onto a slicker to finish it off. The rake is great for getting all the loose undercoat out.
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Old 08-07-2018, 01:09 AM Thread Starter
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@KaiserAus, so if I DO use an undercoat rake, it will be BEFORE a deshedder?
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