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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 08-02-2019, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Question about raw

One of my dogs got sick on prepared raw meat which didn’t digest. It was all I had available so I substituted for a day. I won’t use it again. We had to see a different vet office that was open after hours. They were extremely upset with us and said that raw is dangerous and they treat it as a medical hazard. I was shocked and contacted my own vet the next day. They said they like raw diets when prepared safely. I know you all prefer raw, which was part of my decision to use it. But I wonder if there is any basis for their opinion. They claim they see a lot of dogs poisoned by raw bacteria, which was not at all what was wrong with my dog.
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I think there are several reasons some vets don't like it

1. Bacteria from poorly kept food or from spoiled meat that people feed instead of human grade.
2. pancreatitis for dogs that aren't used to higher fat
3. straight up bias
4. unbalanced diets that aren't healthy.

I've been feeding raw for about 10 years and not one single illness due to raw. I did end up at the vet when a dog (not one of my shepherds) ate a baking bag that had a roast in it and it sat in her stomach for days until she vomited it. We never even knew she ate it until them. It took weeks for the smell of that explosive diarrhea to leave the house.
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Did they advise as to why the food did not digest? My dogs eat anything and everything from raw to fast food to dog food brand changes without transitioning and everything in between. The only thing I have ever had a problem with was with one dog that insist on swallowing socks whole, even knee high, winter weight socks. Chewed socks don't seem to be a problem. (rolls eyes)
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When we saw the X-ray the first thing I thought of was a sock. But it wasnít. My guess is that I soaked the meat overnight to reconstitute because it was not absorbing all the water. I refrigerated it. Apparently that made it harder. It most likely ended up in an undigested huge glob. My dog was in screaming pain. They pushed fluids on an IV and it eventually passed. I have used that food before several times without prior problems. They oddly never diagnosed the cause. That was my suggestion when they determined it was not a blockage.
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Jax, mine had symptoms due to food, so that justified their opinion. but it was a unique situation and should not happen again. I will never buy that type of freeze dried raw meat again. We are going to see a skin allergy specialist anyway soon, and they will look at diet. I told them mine were on raw and they were very positive about it. The tech who processed us out that day said to just cook the raw meat and then they would not have a problem. Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of giving raw?
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That doesn't sound like "raw" caused it. It sounds like the food didn't rehydrate and caused a really bad stomach ache. So no bacterial infection? Just a glob of food that sat in her gut undigested?
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Yes, a huge ball. It was not bacterial, so I was blindsided when we got the release orders that said to have dog rechecked for bacterial infections. There never was one!
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I might be wrong but the freezing in the "freeze dried" should have killed or made bacteria dormant?

So what do they blame when kibble fed dogs come in with bacterial infections?




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I think you need to try real raw food, nothing processed at all. Hopefully when you go to the allergist they can point you in the right direction. When is the appointment?

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They said all dog food plants contain contaminants and that raw meat is potentially full of bacteria. I was very upset when I was told by the tech that raw fed dogs are considered contaminated. Itís not like there are a lot of emergency after hours vets to choose from. I spent a lot of time reading and researching, so I was not happy to be told I am basically an irresponsible owner. In their perspective, we all are.

I donít usually feed prepared meat but my dog who had oral surgery needed a soft diet for two weeks. So I used THK with meat. Otherwise I never use that. I measure and repackage individual portions then freeze it. The one that didnít work was another brand. Apparently chilling it disrupts the hydration process but it doesnít say that anywhere on the package.
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