Originally Posted By: Timber1As always you hit the nail on the head, thanks.
Timber - I think you and I read Chris' response differently. The training and testing by an unbiased person to mean reads "titled" ie schutzhund.....
All my breedings "produce companions" - mentally sound, solid social and environmental nerves - Why should a companion home want a lesser pup than a working home in temperament? If anything, the companion home needs the most solid of social temperaments in the litter!
Yes - people looking for pets want that perfect pup - but unfortunately - the first thing out of their mouths is - "I don't want to show - I just want a pet - I only want to pay $300 or $500" They can live in a 200K house and drive a 40K pickup truck but want a cheaply priced pet for their kids. I had a guy whining at me this week, citing all the ads in the paper for pups - they had looked at several litters and he told me of the mother that hid and showed her teeth, the listless and skinny pups in a chicken wire pen and the "rare silver gray" (blue) who was more money than the rest of the litter. He was a car salesman, trying to get me to sell at his price, using his kid's desire as a tool, and I sent him on his way to next Sundays want ads. I can repeat this story in quite a few variations BTW since I have been screening people like crazy on a plush companion pup...one lady got mad because I had the audicity to ask HER a question and hung up after telling me it was none of my business where she lived or what size/fence yard she had....
Very few well bred balanced working pups will not make good companions if owners are willing to become educated and dedicate themselves to raising the pup properly. Unfortunately, there are too many people who jump into breeding, buy an adult and start off thinking the buyers are going to flock to their doors because they have a litter. Just look at the ads on the database, look at lists like these - lots of people with pups. How many are workign dogs? How many are buying males and females and just instantly have a "breeding program"? How many are active in schutzhund or even AKC performance? How many have trialed or titled a dog, even one purchased already titled?
This whole thread has been very diplomatic IMO - trying to explain that just breeding working dogs of good lines is no guarantee that you will be able to sell those pups to working homes. A good compaion home who is willing to and can properly care for and raise a working pup is just as desireable as a working home, because there are not enough working homes to accomodate the numbers of pups bred in the US. Sport clubs are too hard to find, and it behooves us to breed for the temperament and balance that makes our dogs stable enough to function as companion dogs as well as working dogs. Carefully considering the comments here, it is being said, maybe TOO nicely, that the OP needs to educate herself - in real life, not just by reading on line - which WILL take years before she understands the breed, the lines, the sport, the training and makes contacts who may decide to buy a puppy from dogs owned by her. Unfortunately, she seems to not be considering this advice very deeply. So to be more clear - working homes with experience are not going to buy pups from someone just because they have them for sale. You must go out and build some recognitition factor for yourself, if you get ONE pup in a litter to a workign home from the first litter, you will be lucky. IF that pup gets titled, then you are very very lucky. You have to start off slowly and build momentum, and train and title your breeding stock and produce to prove yourself and your dogs. Buying a proven female bred to a proven male is not a bad idea. But again, the DB is full of ads like that. How many of those pups make it to workign homes?