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Old 09-10-2013, 06:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After reading another thread, I thought "Oh crud, Sabo has learned 'down' after 'sit'...better fix that" so off to the back yard we went! He will do anything with treats but he absolutely loves his rope toys, so I had to figure out how to incorporate that. This is the first 3 minutes of trying out "down" independent of any other command, so bear with us! I think it's pretty dang good for him especially since "down" has never been his best command.

Be kind---keep in mind we did this in just the time I was videoing.

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Old 09-10-2013, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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good job Sabo!!!
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That way is a bit like a correction to the dog. When he hears down, you change your tone and almost force him to lie down. What you can try is say down, and when he lies down, place the tug a few feet from him so when you say 'free' or 'go'or 'get it' he goes for the tug. This is more rewarding for the down and he will associate the down with a positive feeling.

If you are using food to teach this command the you can put the food onto the ground for the dog to eat while lying down and so he is not always breaking the down.
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The dog is like, why should I lie down, I know your just gonna wave the tug around and I'm gonna go get it. When he does lie keep him there and build the suspense a bit and then release him.
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Also when a dog runs to you as he did in the clip you should reward him with the tug rather than command him to lie down.

Just my opinion,
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to mean it seems like you're teaching him "ok" means come. after you say
"ok" and he comes to you why don't you praise him for coming then say "down".
leash him, take a few steps and stop then say "down". you can do circles,
figure 8's, serpentines, back up, "stop", "ok (come)" and include "down" as
part of the exercise. you give a harsh "down". why don't you give him the
"down" in that happy voice?
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to mean it seems like you're teaching him "ok" means come. after you say
"ok" and he comes to you why don't you praise him for coming then say "down".
leash him, take a few steps and stop then say "down". you can do circles,
figure 8's, serpentines, back up, "stop", "ok (come)" and include "down" as
part of the exercise. you give a harsh "down". why don't you give him the
"down" in that happy voice?
Didn't think of doing that! Will do it tomorrow and post. We'll see how it works!!! Mostly because I want him to listen no matter the tone. I do both tones typically. In these three minutes I didn't have a happy voice but typically I do both. I think my thinking was to catch him and get him to notice that something else what expected of him.


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I would also loose the high pitched tone and ground your self more and not run around so much and slow down a bit. Your encouraging the dog to be dizzy and confusing him with all the commotion. Looks like a nice calm pup who is willing to learn and does listen to you good.
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I would also loose the high pitched tone and ground your self more and not run around so much and slow down a bit. Your encouraging the dog to be dizzy and confusing him with all the commotion. Looks like a nice calm pup who is willing to learn and does listen to you good.
I've tried being more "relaxed" he gets bored and so do I. The excitement keeps him focused. Calm is not my dog. He does listen well, but calm? No.


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