Originally Posted by BARBIElovesSAILOR
I am sure there are similar posts out there but, I didn't see one that just generally speaks about this. If there already is one, moderators can remove it.
Last night I was watching Cesar Milan. He was showing how to use a shock collar, and the timing on when to use it. He then proceeded to make the dog lay down, and lay it on its side to show... I forget what haha. Maybe leadership or something.
After that, I was watching Victoria stillwell, where she spoke without mincing words about slip, prong, martingale, and shock collars. She said the only place these belong is in the trash. She said she could teach any dog in 10 minutes how to walk on a loose leash without using any of these devices.
My opinion: I don't agree 100% with all things Cesar does. Last night, Victoria did something for the first time that I disagreed with too.
There is such a juxtaposition in these training methods, and I am sure there are others as well. I just want to have an open and honest discussion.
What training methods do you prefer? Which well known dog trainers do you respect? What theories do you disagree with and why? And pretty much, let's just discuss anything that has to do with the training method controversy.
Watched a lot of stillwell... I think she is completely clueless. Even in all positive methods, and her application of clicker training.
Again my point, in how establishing your 'dog training philosophy' and watching mutliple opinions on good work done, should always proceed jumping in bed with a professional dog trainer.
Stillwell has a huge following, and is training people to be 'professional dog trainers'... (Imagine the impact that has on terrible trainers you pay to give you rubbish advice)
The only trainer i was thinking of trusting for personal interaction wanted to charge me $750 for 1-3 months work... With twice a week sessions... In group Classes... And he kept missing my calls and appointments.. So even though he seemed knowledgeable.. How can I let go of money with somebody that seemed unreliable in business. He also wanted to charge me the 750, until my dog got his BH certs... (Which actually would not take that long in his opinion, because I had done a lot of groundwork..) and then had to pay another sum like $900 to start working IPO... He charged by the dog completing the cert... (I didnt know if he would just set up the test; so my dog would just pass, and then he would be 'done' with me. I wanted this as a lifelong hobby). Im not so big on certs. and formal competition.. Real protection etc. as I am just wanting to have fun with my dog.
The all-positives were pretty clueless. Most of their dogs, could do less than a dog I trained myself.
From what I understand people in the states have much more options in finding good trainers than I do in my country. You are lucky in that regard. But people still need to do their homework.