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Old 08-11-2014, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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few questions. what's the point of 100 levels? it's nice to have the first 20 to find the low working level but after that I think 10 levels would do. is there really a difference between 42 and 43 or 76 and 77? I'm sure there's a slight difference in stim but what's a scenario where you'd choose 76 over 77? I find myself just picking numbers around 30 for emergencies (never went higher)

I'm just starting out, have some patience if you're going to explain

and another. I asked this in another thread but didn't get an answer. how do people know the stim isn't consistent and what does that mean? it stims sometimes and doesn't other times? or the levels aren't consistent?
if it's the levels then how do you find that out?
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lalachka,

When using the collar as a way to guide the dog into a behavior, instead of just a correction collar, you want the ability to be able to subtly adjust the stim level up and down depending on the response from the dog. Simple explanation.

Inconsistent stim:

Say I am working on attention. I found the dog's working level, maybe 15 today, the dog looks away and I give them a correction, they give me attention, but then something distracts them again. I give them another correction and they jump or yelp or cry. I have changed nothing, but all of a sudden the stim is too high. I don't like that and have had it happen time and again with certain collars. This is just a simple answer and describes the use of the collar for corrections and not when guiding the dog into position. I have also had problems when looking for the right level to start, have the dog show no indication of feeling the collar, go up slightly and they yelp. That is lack of consistency.

I have been using e-collars for different reasons for over 13 years so am not inexperienced (bought my first collar from Lou and he was also my first teacher). I want consistency so I am fair to my dog.
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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oh lol I really thought that some people test the levels on themselves. I am not that calibrated

about the first part. yeah i understand the need to fine tune the lower levels. but once you get past 30, does the dog really feel a difference between 40 and 41? it seems at those levels it's used for corrections (no?) and fine tuning isn't needed.

but Steve Strom explained it. it's the way the dials are made. thst makes sense.
if once it went past 30 each level would mean 10 levels (31 for 40, 32 for 50, 33 for 60) it would be easy to go way too high with that kind of a dial if you're trying to set a level fast.

unless I misunderstood again
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My trainer always says, the number doesn't matter. It's finding the place where they respond appropriately.
I know that my dog will sit at 30 no questions asked at home. But when we are in group class, then I need to up her to around 40-45 to get a response.
When she is in prey mode, I might need to hit 80. But I don't look at the dial while correcting. I check it after out of sheer curiosity.
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