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Old 08-07-2014, 11:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tonight I was at the off leash area and there happened to be a muzzled dog, he was super fearful of other dogs and that is why the dog was wearing a muzzle. The trainer happened to be with the dog and he removed the muzzle, there was about 20 dogs at the park none of them paid attention to him at all but he was shaking, barking, growling with his tail between his legs at all the dogs..it was clear to me that the other dogs were avoiding him he was putting off a stay the heck away msg and no dogs were even making eye contact. The trainer put him on a leash, took of the muzzle when he decided to full out lunge at other dogs just walking by, the trainer then flipped him to the ground and held him there for lashing out. I am not a trainer but this seemed whacky to me, put a muzzle on a scared dog, pull it into a park and then force it on its back when it lashes out, out of fear? I mean correct me if I am wrong but the dog was totally overwhelmed and shaking pretty badly so logic suggest a muzzle and tons of on coming dogs not good? I know the dog was fearful of other dogs because I asked. A trainers opinion would be nice bc maybe he had a method but to me it looked awkward and by the time the dog was flipped on its back 6 plus times for doing the lash out it really looked redundant.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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oh boy...what do you say to that? "Hey, nice alpha roll buddy."
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It was like a constant alpha roll, dogs got up and lunged again and he was promptly flipped and held, but the thing that get me is why do it with a terrified dog at a dog park were dogs play? Plus when other dogs were smelling his butt he was squeeking and trying to hide behind everything and the trainer was holding his body and saying "he has to learn" but really he is terrified and I dont think he is learning much at that point in the game.
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what an idiot. poor dog
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what an idiot. poor dog
Agreed.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have taken DA dogs to the Dog Park before. The worst one had on a prong, E Collar and muzzle initially.
We worked our way down in a relatively short time to just an E Collar.
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Imo Alpha roles are not useful for fear issues.
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what an idiot. poor dog
Also agreed. Hope the owners get a clue...
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the dog can't do it . being at a dog park is not necessary . just cruel and ignorant .
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