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Heeling looks good but is impractical in real world application. Even for ring sport id train bare minimum contact heeling. The less you train the less you can screw up and get points deducted for. Attention heeling while fancy and flashy is kind of like teaching buttup or roll over. Just isnt needed.
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I would have thought that heel is really about the dog watching you for direction?
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I'd much rather have my partner aware of the surroundings and not looking at me(If I was an LEO). Dogs are in tune to the handler without having to have the eyes locked on their handlers face.
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the dog is ! the control is very good , as seen in the call off , the turn around being as fast as the send out .

that heeling in the trial ring is so artificial , and can not be sustained over distance and time . The working dog needs to look at the environment and still in concert with the handler.

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Heeling is a VERY precise and controlled position for our dogs and not used for just general walking around from one place to the next.

Was there a specific time in the clip you were referring to ?

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The dogs on the vid did heel when they needed to. It is a skill that can be learned. Attention heeling when they have their head craned around looking at your face, in my opinion, looks ridiculous, and I don't want my dog doing that. If you have a scaredy dog then by training it to look only at your face, you can get an obedience title. But I have a breed that I want to look at its surroundings, and stay at my side.

As for police dogs, I can't see any reason a police dog would need to be looking at its owner's face for its cues. The command is Heel or Foos (however you spell it). What more does the dog need to know from your face until you give him another command. He can adjust to your speed or your direction without looking at your face.

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The best look of a Shepherd on leash is out in front with no straining. A response from one movement of your hand on the leash means you have done a good job.
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-06-2014, 09:43 AM
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I have a relaxed "with me" for generally walking my dogs and a high-focus "fuss" for competition heeling. When in a "with me" the dog is free to be a couple feet away but should not tighten the lead. Gives them a chance to keep an eye on their environment, which is probably what you'd want in a patrol dog.

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Call me stupid, but I'm not sure what heeling has to do with the vid posted??

All I seen was send outs w/an attack, call offs and scent work..

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