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Old 01-13-2014, 10:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How Do I Do A Proper 2 Week Reset?

When rehabilitating, I heard that you must do an at home 'quarantine' of a period of two weeks, especially for 'poisoned cues.' Is this true? And if so what is the proper way to start all over with new commands, demands, and expectations for a head strong shepherd?




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Old 01-13-2014, 11:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what you mean by poisoned cues, but if you want some info on two week shut downs there are some older threads on it. A member named msvette, (she's banned), but she posted a lot of info on it. Here's one with a good description, she is further down on the first page, post#9. Two Week Shut Down Debate...

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Cues become poisoned when you use them in situations where your dog doesn't always comply, and when you can't control whether he does or not. Rather than trying to fix a cue when the dog has already learned he can blow it off without consequences it's sometimes better to start from scratch using a different word. So if you've used "come" as your recall word and he doesn't always come when you use it, you'd start fresh with another recall cue, such as "here", or vice versa.

ETA: Something negative being associated with a cue can also poison it, such as using your recall word before doing something your dog finds unpleasant, such as baths, vet trips, or nail trims.

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Cues become poisoned when you use them in situations where your dog doesn't always comply, and when you can't control whether he does or not. Rather than trying to fix a cue when the dog has already learned he can blow it off without consequences it's sometimes better to start from scratch using a different word. So if you've used "come" as your recall word and he doesn't always come when you use it, you'd start fresh with another recall cue, such as "here", or vice versa.

ETA: Something negative being associated with a cue can also poison it, such as using your recall word before doing something your dog finds unpleasant, such as baths, vet trips, or nail trims.
Thanks for that description, makes sense and without knowing it, I think we already benefited from changing cues. DW's club uses german with ranger and she started doing it with our other two and it seems to have helped in a couple of areas.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Occasionally with an owner-surrendered dog that hasn't been treated well, changing the dog's name is a good idea too. Usually the stability of keeping the name seems like a good thing...but sometimes the dog needs to be rid of it to be free of the bad associations attached to it. I had one foster who cringed every time she heard her old name--someone had often yelled at her (and worse) using her old name. She knew that name only as a prelude to anger and violence. She will never, ever have to hear that name again -- it's banished forever! She's got a pretty, sweet new name that's as gentle as she is, associated only with treats and affection.
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Old 01-20-2014, 02:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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We did the two week shutdown thing and it definitely made a big difference. There are a lot of different variations- walks vs. no walks, covered crate in a private room vs. crate in the living room, leash vs. no leash. It seems like the important thing is to pick a schedule and stick with it. The predictability and stability is what is so healing to them. I opted to take my dog for walks and even hikes. She was leashed in the house but most of the time would drag the leash around, and we used a covered crate in a separate room for quiet time (very important because of our mean, horrible cat). I think what you should go for is a happy medium between enough exercise and stimulation to provide an outlet for energy, and enough controlled downtime that your dog is calm, almost bored. I have heard it recommended 30 minute walk followed by 15 minutes playtime, then crate 3-4 hours. This is mostly to get dogs used to the schedule of a person who works full-time. It seems reasonable to me. It's great if you can start working in routines like "go to your mat" and sitting/lying down while you are eating, working etc. Easy things the dog can do that you can reward every day will help them trust you.

This is my favorite article on the two week shutdown: http://www.bigdogsbighearts.com/2_week_shutdown0001.pdf

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