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Old 01-09-2014, 02:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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In the other thread you are referring to, no one came out against an ecollar being used except in the circumstances in that thread.

The pup, 5 mth old, per the OP's post and history given is or has the potential of fear aggressive, most likely genetic - again per the Op's post. Your recommendation was to zap it for reacting to what it is afraid of. That is a set up for failure, especially when you mix in an overwhelmed new owner.
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Okay, I read/skimmed the other thread....I didn't see ANYONE saying that ecollars were bad...I actually saw a bunch of people that advocate and some that even use the tool, only suggesting that your method/use of one in that situation wasn't right.....so confused at what you're angry about?? People disagreeing with your method? You aren't a trainer, you're still in classes, yet you've "been training dogs for 5 years"?????? On what basis were you training? It's been awhile since I've seen a "trainer" suggest forced interaction in a fear aggressive dog....sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Oy vey. This thread should make for interesting reading later. I'd actually really love Lou Castle to comment on the other thread with his thoughts on OP's suggestions, maybe you'd take his thoughts less defensively than the other posters?
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Okay you didn't read much. I graduated a school already. But when i moved wanted to make sure I had a decent round about knowledge on the field. So yes. I have a degree in it. I did my schooling. But I want more knowledge. Then just what I was shown. I like other view points learning is part of being a in a profession.

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I did not read your entire post. You need to read the rules since you are new. We have a 1000 word limit and that is 2703 words per MS Word .........so you may find your post deleted by the moderator of this section of the forum.

Everybody is not against ecollars. You would know that if you read many posts here in support of their proper use. I feel you can really mess up a dog with the improper use of one but they can be an excellent tool.
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I use e collars correctly. Not against it at all. I am definitely against someone writing a post of that length on a forum about any subject. Lol how ridiculous.

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I use e collars correctly. Not against it at all. I am definitely against someone writing a post of that length on a forum about any subject. Lol how ridiculous.

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I use e collars correctly. Not against it at all. I am definitely against someone writing a post of that length on a forum about any subject. Lol how ridiculous.

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Old 01-09-2014, 03:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes I know this I am a dog trainer. Who just pissed a whole forum.off because I mentioned the use of it

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That's just not true, many members use them.

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I used one to proof my older guys recall. They can be a great training tool used correctly IMO.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Is Lou Castle in the house?
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