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Old 04-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have come to the conclusion that a shock collar is the only way to train a dog to listen all the time. Am I wrong?
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I've never trained with an E collar, my dogs have always listen ... BUT they haven't been exposed to every scenario so I can't be 100% sure they would do what I say in all cases. Does it take longer to train without an E collar??? I don't know but am sure others can answer this.
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I have come to the conclusion that a shock collar is the only way to train a dog to listen all the time. Am I wrong?
Yes you are wrong. And probably unrealistic about the results you'll get from using an e-collar. Dogs absolutely can (and many do) learn when the collar is on and when it is not. And they know when it's not on, you can't "get them".
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I think it depends on the dog. I can only speak for mine, and I have come to the conclusion that only with a shock collar will she pay attention half the time. Without it, she won't do anything at all, and even with it on, sometimes whatever reward she sees out there (chasing a cat, running to the neighbors' house to see what's going on, etc.) is totally worth getting shocked over.
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Yes you are wrong. And probably unrealistic about the results you'll get from using an e-collar. Dogs absolutely can (and many do) learn when the collar is on and when it is not. And they know when it's not on, you can't "get them".
Think it depends on your training goals and what the collar is for.

I don't have an e-collar on my dogs doing agility and it's all off leash and dog not even that close to me...

But for an 100% reliable 'come' when I'm our hiking and the deer run past.... that's what I use the e-collar for.

So not sure what the OP is really talking about when they want their dog to 'listen all the time'.

Listen to what?????

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I think it depends on the dog. I can only speak for mine, and I have come to the conclusion that only with a shock collar will she pay attention half the time. Without it, she won't do anything at all, and even with it on, sometimes whatever reward she sees out there (chasing a cat, running to the neighbors' house to see what's going on, etc.) is totally worth getting shocked over.
I think in this case it also depends on consistency in training...

E-collars are a great tool for some dogs, but they are not a crutch. Nor are they the only answer.
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Any time someone says Tool X is "the only way to train a dog," that person is wrong.
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I think they are a great tool. In process of introducing it now to our puppy who is just over 5 months.
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Just started using an e collar a little while ago. It seems to be working for me
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