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Crowned Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Central Florida
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I've never trained with an E collar, my dogs have always listen ... BUT they haven't been exposed to every scenario so I can't be 100% sure they would do what I say in all cases. Does it take longer to train without an E collar??? I don't know but am sure others can answer this.
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No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SF Bay Area
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There are tons of threads about e-collars: German Shepherd Dog Forums - Search Results
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NE Ohio
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Yes you are wrong. And probably unrealistic about the results you'll get from using an e-collar. Dogs absolutely can (and many do) learn when the collar is on and when it is not. And they know when it's not on, you can't "get them".
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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I think it depends on the dog. I can only speak for mine, and I have come to the conclusion that only with a shock collar will she pay attention half the time. Without it, she won't do anything at all, and even with it on, sometimes whatever reward she sees out there (chasing a cat, running to the neighbors' house to see what's going on, etc.) is totally worth getting shocked over.
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The Agility Rocks! Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!)
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I don't have an e-collar on my dogs doing agility and it's all off leash and dog not even that close to me... But for an 100% reliable 'come' when I'm our hiking and the deer run past.... that's what I use the e-collar for. So not sure what the OP is really talking about when they want their dog to 'listen all the time'. Listen to what?????
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New Hampshire
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E-collars are a great tool for some dogs, but they are not a crutch. Nor are they the only answer. |
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Philadelphia
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Any time someone says Tool X is "the only way to train a dog," that person is wrong.
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