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Old 01-08-2013, 07:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Leerburg On Demand | How to Fit a Prong Collar
Leerburg On Demand | See Why Leerburg Always Recommends a Backup Collar When Using a Prong Collar
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Teaching the puppy on a prong collar takes time just like everything else. It's not a tool that you throw on and it just magically works. You and the dog need to learn how to use it and how it works. Proper fit just under the ears with the rings to the side. It shouldn't hurt your dog as you only give a short quick pop to correct the dog. Don't hang, constantly pull etc on the collar bc you will hurt your dog. Teach your puppy a heel command keeping her by your leg not I front of it and only pop the leash when she moves in front of your leg. I have also never started a puppy younger then a year on the prong. I have always laid a foundation first and then added in the prong from strong walkers pullers. I walk all 4 of my guys together 2 on each side so I added the prongs for the extra back up just incase it's needed and to slow down my 3yr old male who is a very fast heavy/strong walker. If you are also worried about the yelping they make little rubber covers for each of the prong sticks on the collar so it isn't as harsh of a correction you can add on until the puppy is older and then take them off.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It would help if your puppy understood leash pressure, as well. Go on leerburg.com and look for the leash pressure free video
If your pup doesnt understand directives from the leash, then all the pulling in the world will not help. Once a pup understands what the conversation is all about..then you will have more success.
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back to the drawing board . I wish people would develop a better relationship to the dog instead of relying on equipment.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Saw a girl last night walking her lab, pulling her all over the sidewalk, and I mean absolutely dragging the poor girl everywhere. I noticed she was using a prong collar, too, which was way low on the neck, I did tell her to keep the prong up high but I don't think she took me seriously she told me it was high up, not so...

but I really don't think that has much to do with it if your dog does not understand loose leash walking and leash pressure. Wherever the prong sits on my pup, he still understands that pressure means to slow down or stop. Having it high up is just more effective.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I really appreciate all your replies!
I have educated myself about the Prong collar: sized it properly & no longer put it
over her head but unhook the prongs and it stays right below and behind her ears and snout.
She's doing very well on it, 80% of her walk she walks at the heal straight as an arrow
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I would not use the dead ring. All your doing then is having the dog pull into the prongs when they are designed to close together equally for a "pinch" or "bite" feeling.

Add rewards for her being in the position you like. Do some turns and stops so she gets small corrections to understand. If you stop and she hits the end of the leash and backs up to you praise her and continue on the walk.


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Old 01-19-2013, 12:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Oh, forgot to say.... my pup HATED the halti at first. He still dislikes it, but its better. He would paw at it and rub on everything to get it off. He would rub his face on the ground and cry like a wuss becasue he didnt like the feel of it around his head and around his muzzle. But now he tolerates it because he knows when it comes out, it means its time for a walk.
If your pup HATES a tool that much than it is much more aversive than a prong or choke or whatever. If y dog hated wearing a prong I would not use it. Just because a tool looks "kind" or "cruel" to humans does not make it so for dogs. At least with a prong the dog had the power to shut it off by not pulling. If the dog doesn't like the halti on his nose, it's **** out of luck because he can't turn it off no matter what he does.

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Btw I'm not anti head collar or all about prong. I use whatever works for that individual dog, if it's needed at all.


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back to the drawing board . I wish people would develop a better relationship to the dog instead of relying on equipment.
This needs to be repeated.

Work on focus, work on your dog wanting to be with you, work on teaching your dog to release to pressure which you can do in your living room. A correction should come only if the dog fully understands what is expected and blows you off.
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